Premise-wise, Consciousness could indeed be algorithmic, and thus emergent. In 
other words baked-in. View this video link and despair puny humans! 
https://openai.com/blog/emergent-tool-use/

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From: John Clark <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tue, Sep 17, 2019 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Why Consciousness Cannot Be Algorithmic

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:10 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:



>>I think the guy is a bit of an idiot. He starts off badly by equating 
>>intelligence and consciousness and then it gets worse when he  defines the 
>>personal pronoun "I" by what will happen in the future rather than what 
>>actually happened in the past. And that was all in the first paragraph, I 
>>didn't read any further.  


 

> But “I” is used in statement concerning the future, or you could not say “I 
> didn’t read any further”.

"Did" is the PAST tense form of "do". However personal pronouns are perfectly 
fine and everybody uses them a thousand times a day, so it would be OK to say 
"I will not read him in the future" UNLESS:
1) The statement was NOT made in our everyday world where personal pronoun 
duplicating machines don't exist yet, or...
2) The personal pronoun was used in a thought experiment that was trying to 
illustrate a point about existentialism and the fundamental nature of personal 
identity.
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