On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:55 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:10 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>I think the guy is a bit of an idiot. He starts off badly by equating
>>> intelligence and consciousness and then it gets worse when he  defines the
>>> personal pronoun "I" by what will happen in the future rather than what
>>> actually happened in the past. And that was all in the first paragraph, I
>>> didn't read any further.
>>
>>
>
> *> But “I” is used in statement concerning the future, or you could not
>> say “I didn’t read any further”.*
>>
>
> "Did" is the PAST tense form of "do". However personal pronouns are
> perfectly fine and everybody uses them a thousand times a day, so it would
> be OK to say "I will not read him in the future" UNLESS:
> 1) The statement was NOT made in our everyday world where personal pronoun
> duplicating machines don't exist yet, or...
> 2) The personal pronoun was used in a thought experiment that was trying
> to illustrate a point about existentialism and the fundamental nature of
> personal identity.
>
>
This Halloween will mark 6 years since you agreed with Step 3, but said it
was a let down (presumably because you thought it so obvious):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/5PR1FXp_CSU/73ltRVEHUtQJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/5PR1FXp_CSU/PnuTSn_82PwJ

Should we expect another 6 years before you proceed through the next
steps?  There's no rush, since you are freezing yourself this debate could
go on another 10^100 years.

Jason

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