> On 24 Sep 2019, at 03:44, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 9/23/2019 6:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 9/23/2019 11:59 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> But other quantum experts use decoherence to explain quantum phenomena >>> without invoking multiple universes. >> >> "Without invoking" doesn't mean "denying". >> >> It does if you believe in applying Occam's Razor. AG > > True. But I'm still waiting for pt to quote this expert saying he explains > quantum phenomena without MW. He keeps implying it's Zurek, but I just read > Zurek's paper on quantum Darwinism again and ISTM Zurek is assuming MWI > throughout. QD is just his solution to the basis problem.
I agree. The very idea of decoherence is already in Everett, and Zurek used it to solve the basis problem (rather successfully Imo). Bruno > > Brent > >> >> If you're only interested in saving the phenomenon you can explain the >> apparent collapse by decoherence and not say anything about the other >> results that were predicted. Chris Fuchs explains quantum phenomenon >> without either collapse or multiple universes. >> >> Brent >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4ee8d0a4-f6e1-49b4-a510-0886b1eae672%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4ee8d0a4-f6e1-49b4-a510-0886b1eae672%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ce794814-5b69-ddd5-d1e5-048da48909e3%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ce794814-5b69-ddd5-d1e5-048da48909e3%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/DFCA6383-6757-417B-B5A8-1B7297250E50%40ulb.ac.be.
