On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 4:53:04 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 5:33:25 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 12:16:57 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Many Worlds leads Sean Carroll to speculate about the morality of >>> duplicated selves when they bach off into other worlds. >>> >>> Sean Carroll >>> @seanmcarroll >>> https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll/status/1176617631408775168 >>> >>> *Congressional votes do not *cause* the wave function to branch, but >>> unlikely quantum events can bring into existence branches where classically >>> unlikely outcomes have occurred. A nucleus might decay in the right >>> Representative's brain at just the right time, etc.* >>> >>> He asks: >>> >>> "If You Existed in Multiple Universes, How Would You Act In This One?" >>> >>> >>> >>> https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-universes-how-would-you-act-in-this-one/ >>> (From Something Deeply Hidden: Quantum Worlds and the Emergence of >>> Spacetime by Sean Carroll) >>> >>> >>> But he gives away the game here: >>> >>> "To each individual on some branch of the wave function, life goes on >>> just as if they lived in a single world with truly stochastic quantum >>> events." >>> >>> Maybe there's a Sean Carroll branch that loves stochasticity. >>> >> >> *How do you distinguish stochastic probability from quantum probability? >> AG * >> >>> >>> Many Worlds (a religion, or quasi-religion, but not science) is >>> fundamentally an anti-probabilities superstition. And anti-materialist as >>> well. Those who think we are pure information - platotonist bits - have no >>> problem with the idea of multiple copies of things here and now being made, >>> because there is no new material needed. >>> >>> (The religious aspect of Many Worlds has been made apparent with the >>> promotion - Carroll's own tweets, for example - of the book.) >>> >>> @philipthrift >>> >>> >>> > > There is quantum probability, which is advertised to come from quantum > chip random number generators > > > https://www.idquantique.com/random-number-generation/products/quantis-random-number-generator/ > > (to be concrete about it), where the claim is that the series of 0s and 1s > one gets from then is true randomness (coming from a quantum source). >
*This is an operational definition of creating a (quantum) random series of 0s and 1s. But I think there's a theoretically distinction between quantum randomness and the (classical) stochastic random process, and it involves the concept of interference. AG * > > Now in Sean Carroll's MW presentation, the computer with one of those > boards in it would duplicate and there would be a 0 branch and a 1 branch > with each 0 or 1 generated. > > So at the end of seeing 01001110 on your screen, there would be 2^8 > computers (and yous) in that many worlds. > > "Stochastic" (Greek word origin) is just another (cooler, some think) for > "random". In a probability theory track at university: random processes, > stochastic processes, same damn things. > > > Assuming there is just one world, there is just one computer at the end of > seeing 01001110 and no other computers in other worlds. > > @philipthrift > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/12588c5f-bb60-4ed7-b99e-2610c16aa045%40googlegroups.com.
