Well now the insults... Okay. Le mer. 25 sept. 2019 à 11:49, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 3:24:18 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: >> >> >> >> Le mer. 25 sept. 2019 à 10:21, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 3:00:52 AM UTC-5, Quentin Anciaux >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le mer. 25 sept. 2019 à 09:55, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 1:25:58 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 08:16, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many Worlds leads Sean Carroll to speculate about the morality of >>>>>>> duplicated selves when they bach off into other worlds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sean Carroll >>>>>>> @seanmcarroll >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll/status/1176617631408775168 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Congressional votes do not *cause* the wave function to branch, but >>>>>>> unlikely quantum events can bring into existence branches where >>>>>>> classically >>>>>>> unlikely outcomes have occurred. A nucleus might decay in the right >>>>>>> Representative's brain at just the right time, etc.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He asks: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "If You Existed in Multiple Universes, How Would You Act In This >>>>>>> One?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-universes-how-would-you-act-in-this-one/ >>>>>>> (From Something Deeply Hidden: Quantum Worlds and the Emergence of >>>>>>> Spacetime by Sean Carroll) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But he gives away the game here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "To each individual on some branch of the wave function, life goes >>>>>>> on just as if they lived in a single world with truly stochastic quantum >>>>>>> events." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe there's a Sean Carroll branch that loves stochasticity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many Worlds (a religion, or quasi-religion, but not science) is >>>>>>> fundamentally an anti-probabilities superstition. And anti-materialist >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> well. Those who think we are pure information - platotonist bits - have >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> problem with the idea of multiple copies of things here and now being >>>>>>> made, >>>>>>> because there is no new material needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (The religious aspect of Many Worlds has been made apparent with the >>>>>>> promotion - Carroll's own tweets, for example - of the book.) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pro-deterministic is not anti-probability. Also, pro-materialistic is >>>>>> no less “religious” than anti-materialistic, since there is no way to >>>>>> know >>>>>> that a true material world does or does not exist. When it comes to >>>>>> deciding which interpretation of reality to prefer, one can either use >>>>>> aesthetic considerations (Occam’s razor) or refuse to engage in >>>>>> discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Stathis Papaioannou >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I know is that *materials science* taught in universities, >>>>> applied in technology companies. >>>>> >>>>> But *nonmaterials* "science" is taught in theology schools, and has >>>>> no applications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> So what ? We're talking ontology/metaphysics here, so it has no >>>> application... You don't use ontology to make things. >>>> >>>> Putting matter as primary is no less religious than if it is not, >>>> that's all, so treating other religious regarding that is ridiculous. Of >>>> course they are, as much as you are about matter being primary. >>>> >>>> Quentin >>>> >>>>> @philipthrift >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/36802602-a2a1-4b8f-96a6-3a289daf0e45%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/36802602-a2a1-4b8f-96a6-3a289daf0e45%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy >>>> Batty/Rutger Hauer) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "ontology/metaphysics ... has no application" >>> >>> Then it's a great idea to throw away or ignore all the books/articles >>> that are ""ontology/metaphysics". >>> >> >> You are on the everything list, whose goal is to talk about everything >> theories/ideas *which are* about metaphysics/ontology, may I suggest that >> you're on the wrong mailing list. >> >>> >>> @philipthrift >>> >> > > > I see you have nothing constructive of insightful to say about the article > on morality I posted by *Sean Carroll *from Literary Hub, which was a > well-written article. I made a comment on the article in my post ,and cited > what he said. You didn't in your post. > > But I can see you are the type of person who *rants and never reads*, nor > can post anything of their own of any interest. > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d0568429-ccd7-4485-ae8d-f17a6675fe3d%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d0568429-ccd7-4485-ae8d-f17a6675fe3d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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