On 9/29/2019 6:13 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 03:27:51PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
wrote:

On 9/29/2019 3:15 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

     On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 06:27:16PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything 
List wrote:

         When I wrote "lowest" I was assuming the context of MWI...not a single
         universe.  The Bekenstein bound implies that the Hubble volume has an 
upper
         bound for information capacity of it's surface area in Planck units.  
This
         number is around 2.4e106.  So as I read Zurek, he thinks this provides 
a kind
         of probability cutoff and branches less probable than 0.4e-106 have 
zero
         probability.   And, more to the point, in the limit of large N, where 
N is the
         number of degrees of freedom in the environment the off diagonal terms 
of the
         reduced density matrix go to zero; but this cutoff makes them exactly 
zero for
         N>2.41e106.  I haven't figured out many branchings it would take to 
reach this
         number, but with some 1e98 particles it wouldn't take very many.

         Brent

     Its an interesting idea, and a plausible mechanism for denying the
     "no cul-de-sac conjecture" and quantum immortality.

     However, I do have to wonder the significance of a 2.4x10^106 planck
     distance quare hubble volume. This surely is a geographical factoid
     rather than of fundamental significance.


It's not just geographical.  The Bekenstein bound on the information that can
be contained within a the Hubble sphere depends on how big the sphere is which
in turn depends on the expansion rate of the universe.  The expansion rate of
the universe might be a fundamental constant.

Brent

Wouldn't it also depend on when you are observing the universe?
True.  It wouldn't really be constant.

Brent


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