On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 4:46:59 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:41 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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> *> It's the "ironed out" that I don't understand. If there were some 
>> fluctuations, small deviations from thermal equilibrium, why would a sudden 
>> expansion attenuate them? *
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>
> As I explained in my previous post, Inflation Theory says a very very very 
> small part of the pre-inflationary universe would have had time to reach 
> thermal equilibrium, and that small part then underwent exponential 
> expansion and become 10^100 times larger (or maybe "only" 10^78 times 
> larger) in just 10^-35 seconds. And that very very small part is our entire 
> observable universe. And that very very very small part of the Universe is 
> still in thermal equilibrium, or close to it.
>
> *> It makes more sense to me that the universe was already very close to 
>> thermal equilibrium during inflation, *
>
>
> As I also explain in my previous post, there is no theoretical reason to 
> expect the pre-inflationary universe to be anywhere even close to thermal 
> equilibrium, and the less fine tuning of initial conditions that a theory 
> needs to match current observations, that is to say the less often you have 
> to say "that's just the way it is", the better. 
>

If the pre-inflation universe was a vacuum in the absence of particles, I 
don't think thermal equilibrium applies to it. This is not fine tuning 
AFAICT. OTOH, for the reasons outlined in my last post to LC, the 
parameters such as the SoL, the size of the universe during inflation, and 
the fact that it was causally connected throughout, suggests that thermal 
equilibrium DURING inflation is a possibility which must be considered. AG 

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> By the way, this thread is quickly becoming unreadable, your post had 12 
> iterations of quotes, that's quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes 
> of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes. 
>

I don't understand the basis for your complaint. This thread is relatively 
short, much shorter than other threads you have been active on, and without 
any complaints as above. AG 

>
> John K Clark
>

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