On Monday, October 7, 2019 at 5:42:02 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:12 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
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> > So, PH, I believe, that Frank Tipler the Omega Point dude, agrees with 
>> you on this one issue. He seems to be a stickler for everything in physics 
>> to be neat and tidy and conformal. This, of course, will cause you and the 
>> rest here, to convulse with nausea on this here mailing list. But from what 
>> I was able to follow on his vid, he agrees with your contention. For me, I 
>> follow Tipler because I loved his reasoning, and an afterlife even after 10 
>> trillion years of dust,
>>
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I remember reading Tipler's book *Physics of Immortality* and thinking it 
was nuts. He had ideas about hyper-tech beings surviving the collapse of 
the universe beyond the Planck range and so forth and with an asymptote on 
time there is some infinite time. The book though has a nice set of 
appendices that are a decent quick reference on some physics. He did come 
out with something about the cosmology of the Trinity or some such thing. I 
skipped that. I think he has gone off the rails. 

LC
 

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> I finished reading Tipler's book "The Physics Of Immortality" on Friday 
> March 15 1996 and liked it and I sent a post about it to the Extropian List 
> that same day. At the time, nearly 24 years ago, I said the reason I liked 
> his book was that:
>
> "*Tipler's Omega  Point Theory makes a bunch of predictions, practical 
> predictions that should be able to be tested for in the next 4 or 5 years. 
> Tipler himself states that every one of these predictions must turn out to 
> be correct or the entire theory is dead in the water*."
>
> Well lets see how his predictions turned out"
>
> "* *Tipler predicts that the universe is closed: I think most would say 
> it's probably open, Tipler says they're wrong.* "
>
> It turned out it was Tipler that was wrong and not only was he wrong 
> Tipler was *spectacularly* wrong! The expansion of the universe is not 
> reversing, it's not even slowing down, it is accelerating. 
>
> "* *Tipler predicts that the Higgs boson must be at 220 +- 20 GeV: If 
> he's  correct then when the CERN Large Hadron Collider goes on line in 1999 
> it will find it almost immediately*."  
>
> The Higgs boson wasn't found until 2012, the delay wasn't Tipler's fault 
> but his prediction was dead wrong, the mass of the Higgs boson turned out 
> to be 125.3 +- 0.4 GeV
>
> "** Tipler predicts that the Hubble constant must be less than or equal 
> to 45*" 
>
> Today there is still disagreement over the exact value, some say its 66.9, 
> another group says its 69.8, and another group says its 74.0, and yet 
> another group says its 82.4; but nobody thinks its anywhere near 45.
>
> So what is Tipler up to today? Well...back in 2007 the poor man went a 
> little funny in the head, you know, just a little funny, and he went and 
> did a silly thing; he wrote another book saying we should look for divine 
> DNA on the Shroud of Turin and check for radiation around the tomb of the 
> Blessed Virgin Mary that was caused by an intense beam of neutrinos that 
> must have shot out of the bottom of her feet thrusting her upward into 
> heaven.
>
> John K Clark
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>

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