> On 10 Oct 2019, at 00:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2019 3:52 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > I've argued this before, but it's worth stating again. It's a >> > misintepretation of superposition to claim that a system described by >> > it, is in all the component states simultaneously. As is easily seen >> > in ordinary vector space, an arbitrary vector has an uncountable >> > number of different representations. Thus, to claim it is in some >> > specific set of component states simultaneously, makes no sense. Thus >> > evaporates a key "mystery" of quantum theory, inclusive of S's cat and >> > Everett's many worlds. AG >> >> No. It changes the problem to the question of why there are preferred >> bases. >> >> Brent >> >> Who chose Alive and Dead, or Awake and Sleeping for the S. cat? Wasn't it >> the observer? > > Could the observer have chosen |alive>+|dead> and |alive>-|dead> as a basis?
In principle yes. And if you look at the cat, you are yourself described by [(seeing the cat alive )(cat alive) + (seeing the cat dead)(cat dead)]. Then I have still the choice by measuring you with a device measuring if you are seeing a cat alive, or dead, or off you are in the state [(seeing the cat alive )(cat alive) + (seeing the cat dead)(cat dead)] Or in the state [(seeing the cat alive )(cat alive) - (seeing the cat dead)(cat dead)] That does not change your own statistics. Bruno > > Brent > >> Since they had other choices, my claim stands. AG > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/63f5f1af-516e-c677-e417-0e761ce6bd8d%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/63f5f1af-516e-c677-e417-0e761ce6bd8d%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/F5C44C3D-E09D-40FD-ABC2-AAC39218074D%40ulb.ac.be.

