> On 13 Oct 2019, at 16:43, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 7:48:29 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 Oct 2019, at 12:52, Alan Grayson <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> > I've argued this before, but it's worth stating again. It's a >> > misintepretation of superposition to claim that a system described by >> > it, is in all the component states simultaneously. As is easily seen >> > in ordinary vector space, an arbitrary vector has an uncountable >> > number of different representations. Thus, to claim it is in some >> > specific set of component states simultaneously, makes no sense. Thus >> > evaporates a key "mystery" of quantum theory, inclusive of S's cat and >> > Everett's many worlds. AG >> >> No. It changes the problem to the question of why there are preferred >> bases. >> >> Brent >> >> Who chose Alive and Dead, or Awake and Sleeping for the S. cat? Wasn't it >> the observer? Since they had other choices, my claim stands. AG > > Everett showed explicitly that the relative states, and their relative > statistics does not depend on the choice of the bases. > Something quite similar occur already in arithmetic, with a much general > notion of "base”. > > Bruno > > Arithmetic does not include probability theory. AG
In the arithmetical ontology? You are right. But if we assume mechanism, it is not difficult to explain why many form of uncertainty measure appears in the phenomenology of mind and matter from the person associated to number in the computations (realised in arithmetic). This is usually what I explain in the first half on my papers on this subject. Ask me any question starting from the papers. I have not much time until the end of November to explain it here. Bruno > > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e2854a3f-78c0-4968-9449-4255d2099fa6%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e2854a3f-78c0-4968-9449-4255d2099fa6%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/57ec49df-e7ad-4617-9b5f-e79371795763%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/57ec49df-e7ad-4617-9b5f-e79371795763%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/47B53D3D-7B1A-4613-B82F-5C0A7F50CD3A%40ulb.ac.be.
