> On 21 Oct 2019, at 13:40, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 10:18 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > As you seem to disbelieve in the mechanist theory of mind, there is no > problem with your approach, even less if you limit yourself to the study of > local predictions FAPP. But from a fundamental science, that does not work. > > Sorry Bruno, but that is fundamental science, and it works very well indeed.
The physical prediction works only with the assumption of one-brain/one-mind, which is falsified when we assume that the brain is Turing emulable at some level relevant for our mind to persist after a functional substitution made at that level. > Your “mechanism" It is not mine, it is Descartes' one, or Darwin’s one, in the version of Turing’s notion of digital mechanism. The opposite of “mechanism” is the assumption that there is some magic operating in the body, so as to select the computation out of the arithmetical reality (which executes all computations in its extreme redundant and structured way). With mechanism, we must explain from that structure the appearance and stability of the observable, or we put (again) the mind-body problem under the rug. > doesn't work because you can't even explain why there is a basis problem in > quantum mechanics. I don’t see this. You can elaborate. Up to now, we cannot even explain with mechanism the existence of any basis, but at least, we got the relation consciousness/physics right, without adding actual infinities and magic action. It explains also why there is observable, which physics just assumes, and assumes a stability which has to be explained if we accept Mechanism (the older metaphysics in history). Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRP1iVJCC7s8cZYP%2BRdovKP-bJ3cZCWrLijZG417g8QfA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRP1iVJCC7s8cZYP%2BRdovKP-bJ3cZCWrLijZG417g8QfA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/A4BAE181-47CF-4DD2-92EF-01CEC542BECD%40ulb.ac.be.
