> On 3 Dec 2019, at 09:58, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:39:46 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:59, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
>> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 12:33:26 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> In any case, in the case of MWI, in the types of examples Sean Carroll talks 
>> about, here's a concrete case:
>> 
>> In one branch, Sean Carroll goes out for a jog around the park.
>> 
>> In another branch, Sean Carroll; stays home and takes a nap. 
>> 
>> I don't see how the two Seans (running, napping) are in "superposition", or 
>> how Sean's energy is distributed to and within these two worlds.
>> 
>> @philipthrift
>> 
>> It really is not so much that a person is in a superposition than the 
>> quantum particles and states that compose them are.
>> 
>> LC 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In the MWI branch world Jog where Sean is jogging and in the branch world 
>> Nap where Sean is napping, the jogging-Sean particles in Jog and the 
>> napping-Sean particles in Nap are in superposition. 
>> 
>> Then there is another branching of Jog where Sean is hit by a car 
>> Jog-HitByCar and one where he isn't Jog-NotHitByCar. Particles in 
>> superpositions: Nap, Jog, Jog-HitByCar, Jog-NotHitByCar, ...
>> 
>> This seems like it should make no sense.
> 
> Yet, that happens in the arithmetical reality. So it certainly makes sense, 
> up to verify this regularly (the theory might be false). It is 
> counter-intuitive, but there is no contradiction, and it is the simpler way 
> to reconcile mind and matter, and the observations.
> 
> Bruno
> 
> 
> 
> This proves my point that Many Worlds can only work in a pure informational 
> (or arithmetical) reality.
> 
> The Many Worlders are (like Sean Carroll) anti-materialists - in the sense 
> that they think everything is information (or quantum information).


Quantum information is, or should be, digital information seen from the 
“material modes of self-reference”, and this is confirmed so far. It is a 
typical physical thing, and as such it emerges from the first person view in 
arithmetic (which are typically NOT arithmetical). Sean Carroll miss the point 
that the Wave itself must be explained by Mechanism (a classical notion).

Bruno


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