On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 3:09:08 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 12:22:01 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 8:55 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Quantum mechanics itself is not counterfactually definite. Einstein was >>>> wrong about this. A free electron is described by a wave packet which is a >>>> superposition of states of definite momentum and position. There is no >>>> actual "position" for the electron until it interacts with a screen or >>>> some >>>> similar device. This is demonstrated by simple two-slit interference. >>>> There >>>> is no pre-existing position, unless you want to embrace Bohm's pilot wave >>>> theory, in which the electron does have a definite, though unknown, >>>> position at all times. >>>> >>> >>> I have come across an interesting video >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D9HkoHScdY >>> >>> in which Gerard 't Hooft, Roger Penrose, Tim Maudlin and a couple of >>> others talk about interpretations of quantum mechanics from their different >>> perspective. I found the segment by Tim Maudlin particularly interesting, >>> given his new book on the philosophy of quantum mechanics. His segment >>> starts at about the 10 minute mark. But the other contributions also have >>> some interest -- particularly Philip Ball towards the end (about the 20 >>> minute mark). >>> >>> No definite conclusions are advocated, but it is interesting to hear the >>> different perspectives. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >> >> >>
>> >> Not sure what this is. >> > > So why did you raise it? You have a habit of throwing irrelevancies > around, Phil. It is not an endearing trait. > > Bruce > > > > >> >> It's at the basis of* Tim Maudlin'*s interpretation. "Gerard 't Hooft, Roger Penrose, Tim Maudlin and a couple of others talk about interpretations of quantum mechanics from *their* different perspective." You brought up *Tim Maudlin*'s theory. I didn't. Apparently you don't know anything about Maudlin's theory. (Which is a trait of yours.) @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0fdd61a0-0efc-4faa-abcd-31a72d558199%40googlegroups.com.
