Well then, should we consider panpsychism as a fiction, along with models? On the other hand, models exist as symbols on screens, and the chemistry of our neurology (brainzz), so it exists (models) in this fashion, material.
-----Original Message----- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2020 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Non Material Things (was The Self) On 1/6/2020 2:46 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 1/6/2020 7:30 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > nonmaterial > > not material or composed of matter > > (Collins Dictionary) > > There is nothing for which that is the case. (Materialism) > > The alternate to that (like fast exists as an entity in a nonmaterial realm) > is Platonism. What about energy, entropy, Lagrangians, wave-functions, distance,... To eliminate abstractions would make science impossible, since the whole point is to develop theories whose predictions go beyond the observations they were derived from. Brent These are fictions, as all models are: Fictions, Inference, and Realism Mauricio Suárez (in Fictions and Models: New Essays) https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/11922469.pdf (I can't believe what physicists are taught these days.) Then how do you know a quark is not a fiction? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e4e165b1-89b6-7140-3c4b-9ab7ee10b702%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/395868046.9111223.1578354784471%40mail.yahoo.com.