Well then, should we consider panpsychism as a fiction, along with models? On 
the other hand, models exist as symbols on screens, and the chemistry of our 
neurology (brainzz), so it exists (models) in this fashion, material. 


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From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: Non Material Things (was The Self)

 
 
 On 1/6/2020 2:46 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
  
 

 
 On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 2:17:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
 
 
 On 1/6/2020 7:30 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: 
 > nonmaterial 
 > 
 >   not material or composed of matter 
 > 
 > (Collins Dictionary) 
 > 
 > There is nothing for which that is the case. (Materialism) 
 > 
 > The alternate to that (like fast exists as an entity in a nonmaterial realm) 
 > is Platonism. 
 
 What about energy, entropy, Lagrangians, wave-functions, distance,...  
 To eliminate abstractions would make science impossible, since the whole 
 point is to develop theories whose predictions go beyond the 
 observations they were derived from. 
 
 Brent 
 
 
 
 
  These are fictions, as all models are: 
   Fictions, Inference, and Realism Mauricio Suárez (in Fictions and Models: 
New Essays) 
  https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/11922469.pdf  
  (I can't believe what physicists are taught these days.)
   
 Then how do you know a quark is not a fiction?
 
 Brent
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