On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 8:58:06 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote:
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> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:30 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
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>> *> If we're convinced it's finite in age, then it can't be infinite in 
>> spatial extent. AG *
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> We don't know for sure our universe is infinite in size and we'll never 
> know for sure because we'll never be able to measure precisely zero 
> curvature with no error at all, but we do know it's pretty damn flat, if 
> it's curved it's so slight that a light beam would have to go at least 500 
> times as far as our telescopes can see for it to return where it started. 
> So if you respect the empirical evidence for the Big Bang but the idea of a 
> beginning of a infinitely sized universe makes you unhappy then the 
> Multiverse idea offers you an obvious solution, you get an infinitely large 
> infinitely old Multiverse but with the observable universe having a 
> beginning and being only finitely large. However I understand the 
> Multiverse makes you unhappy too. I fear you may be destined to be unhappy.
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> By the way ... does the inverse also make you unhappy, something 
> infinitely old but finite in spatial extent?
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> John K Clark
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*All the models pictorially represented, have the Universe beginning very 
small, and inflation is claimed to increase its size from, say, much 
smaller than a proton, to about the size of the Earth or Solar System in a 
few Planck intervals. If it begins small, or if you run the clock backward 
it becomes progressively smaller, how could it have started with infinite 
spatial extent? Don't you see something wrong with the model?  AG*

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