On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 5:20:43 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:47 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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> *> My point is that the CMB "clock" exists everywhere, and that it has no 
>> relative motion wrt anything, so how can time dilation be applied to it? AG*
>
>
> It can't. Nobody said the CMB looks the same for everybody regardless of 
> their motion. It doesn't. But if you and I are in relative motion then I 
> will see my local clock running faster than your local clock, and you will 
> see your local clock running faster than my local clock. And the CMB has 
> absolutely nothing to do with it because Time Dilation is about what local 
> clocks do.
>
>  John K Clark 
>

But what if the CMB *is* the local clock? How could it manifest time 
dilation, compared to a clock in some moving frame, if its "clock" reading 
doesn't change? AG 

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