> On 3 Feb 2020, at 23:47, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > This video was just uploaded today: > > Are there Infinite Versions of You? > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT110-Q8PJI> >
OK. Nice. Here is my short comment there: << Things go the other way around (in the original contribution of your servitor). The notion of computation is an arithmetical notion, and it is relatively easy to prove that all computations are executed in all models of elementary arithmetic. Now, no universal machine, which "lives" in arithmetic, can determine which computations support her, and the machine is undetermined on all relative computations (those going through its current state of mind). That eventually necessitates to derive the physical laws from the relative statistics on all computations (in arithmetic), and that indeed eventually has shown that the machine's observable has to obey to some quantum logics. The quantum materiality seems to be an illusion brought by the arithmetical seen from inside by infinitely distributed universal machines or numbers. >> In arithmetic, we dont need a monkey, nor any randomness. A (deterministic) Universal Dovetailer is enough to get both the description *and* the execution (relative emulation) of all computations, and it provides the main clue toward the solution of the probability measure problem which is that there is an important redundancy of the computations, which is highly structured (in a non computable non trivial way) and it is structured by the self-reference ability of the number/machine. It is up to the believer in some ontology (richer than arithmetic or Turing equivalent) to explain how that ontology select the measure in arithmetic, which is hardly possible if we assume Digital Mechanism or Computationalism. Bruno > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv301h1eL6ogoQmDHauSLBQy6wwGAoutzbpiwWF_ZnqKWw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv301h1eL6ogoQmDHauSLBQy6wwGAoutzbpiwWF_ZnqKWw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/AACD582A-1555-48E5-93FB-661B76920B36%40ulb.ac.be.
