On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 6:05:54 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:54:03 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 2:29:44 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 3:48:00 PM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: >>>> >>>> This video was just uploaded today: >>>> >>>> Are there Infinite Versions of You? >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT110-Q8PJI> >>>> >>>> John K Clark >>>> >>> >>> *The answer is NO, if at least one parameter of the universe can >>> continuously vary, even along a finite interval or dimension. In this case, >>> the number of possible universes is UNCOUNTABLE, and IIUC, under this >>> condition Poincare Recurrence doesn't apply. AG * >>> >> >> The Poincare recurrence of 10^{100} particles, approximately how many >> particles are out to the limit of observation, is around 10^{10^{100}} time >> units. Those time units would be Planck units of time, but the disparity of >> numbers means that we can consider this to be years with little error, >> Using the idea of space = time this would mean in spatial distance there is >> also a sort of recurrence. So out to that distance there exists some >> repeated form of what exists here. The quantum recurrence time is >> approximately 10^{10^{10^{100}}} time units or the exponent of this. So >> further out in space would imply not only a copy of things here, but also >> the same quantum phase. This is something within just the level 1 >> multiverse. >> >> Now this distance is utterly enormous and not just beyond the >> cosmological horizon, but beyond a distance where a Planck unit is >> redshifted to the horizon scale. This distance is around 2 trillion light >> years, which is a mere trifle by comparison to maybe 10^{10^{100}} light >> years or so. This length is the absolute limit of any observation. This >> then means the universe has some N genus manifold covering, or equivalently >> some polytope, covering space to reflect this multiplicity. For the >> polytope with N facets the horizon scale is a nearly infinitesimal bubble >> in the center. >> >> There is then of course in addition the level 2 multiverse which is the >> generation of pocket worlds within an inflationary de Sitter manifold. >> These may then have different renormalization group flows for gauge >> coupling values and physical vacua. Another level 3, or level 2.2, is the >> generation of dS inflationary manifolds from AdS/CFT physics. >> >> LC >> > > *Do you agree that if any parameter of our universe logically allows some > continuum of values, PR fails? Or if our universe is finite in spatial > extent, PR fails? AG* >
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