On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 4:25:08 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 3/6/2020 3:40 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> Szangolies [ J. Szangolies, "Epistemic Horizons and the Foundations of 
> Quantum Mechanics," https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.10668  ] works a form of 
> the Cantor diagonalization for quantum measurements. As yet a full up form 
> of the CHSH or Bell inequality violation result is waiting. There are 
> exciting possibilities for connections between quantum mechanics, in 
> particular the subject of quantum decoherence and measurement, and Gödel’s 
> theorem. 
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> If we think of all physics as a form of convex sets of states, then there 
> are dualisms of measures p and q that obey 1/p + 1/q = 1. For quantum 
> mechanics this is p = ½ as an L^2 measure theory. It then has a 
> corresponding q = ½ 
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> Which would give 1/p + 1/q = 4 ??
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> Brent
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Oops, I meant p = 2 and q = 2.

LC
 

> measure system that I think is spacetime physics. A straight probability 
> system has p = 1, sum of probabilities as unity, and the corresponding q → 
> ∞ has no measure or distribution system. This is any deterministic system, 
> think completely localized, that can be a Turing machine, Conway's <i>Game 
> of life</i> or classical mechanics. A quantum measurement is a transition 
> between p = ½ for QM and ∞ for classicality or 1 for classical probability 
> on a fundamental level.
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> What separates these different convex sets are these topological 
> obstructions, such as the indices given by the Kirwan polytope. The 
> distinction between entanglements is also given by these topological 
> indices or obstructions. How these determine a measurement outcome, or the 
> ontology of an element of a decoherent sets is not decidable. This is where 
> Gödel’s theorem enters in. A quantum measurement is a way that quantum 
> information or qubits encode other qubits as Gödel numbers.
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> The prospect spacetime, or the entropy of spacetime via event horizon 
> areas, is a condensate or large N-entanglement of quantum states then 
> implies there is a connection between quantum computation and information 
> accessible in spacetime configurations. These configurations may either be 
> the Bekenstein bound S = kA/4ℓ_p^2, or quantum modified version S = 
> kA/4ℓ_p^2 + quantum corrections. Then the quantum processing or quantum 
> Church-Turing thesis is I think equivalent to the information processing of 
> spacetime as black holes and maybe entire cosmologies.
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> These are exciting developments.
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> LC
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