Speaking of large but finite numbers, I think sometimes we forget just how
big some finite numbers can be:

This article really stretched my brain/hurt my head:
https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/11/1000000-grahams-number.html Numbers can be
so big they become scary.

Jason

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 6:37 PM Russell Standish <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:05:08PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything
> List wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 5/23/2020 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, those are theorem provable in very weak theories. It is more a
> > > question of grasping the proof than subscribing to a philosophical
> idea.
> > > That arithmetic executes all programs is a theorem similar to Euclid’s
> > > theorem that there is no biggest prima numbers. It is more a fact, than
> > > an idea which could be debated. I insist on this as I realise this is
> > > less known by the general scientists than 20 years ago. We knew this
> > > implicitly since Gödel 1931, and explicitly since Church, Turing and
> > > Kleene 1936.
> >
> > Recently you have said that your theory is consistent with finitism, even
> > ultrafinitism.  But the idea that arithemtic exectues all programs
> certainly
> > requires infinities.
>
> Only potential infinities, not actual infinities. For the UD (a finite
> object) to execute any given program, one only needs to wait a finite
> amount of time.
>
> However, I would think that ultrafinitism would change COMP's
> predictions, and in a sense be incompatibe with it. Some programs will
> not exist, because one would need to wait too long for them to be
> executed by the UD. In fact, the choice of reference universal machine
> would be significant in ultrafinitism, IIUC.
>
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