> On 6 Jun 2020, at 14:13, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 6:10:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 5 Jun 2020, at 23:36, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >> ref (article by Jim Baggott): >> >> >> https://medium.com/@MassimoPigliucci/the-copenhagen-confusion-611f31cc27e1 >> <https://medium.com/@MassimoPigliucci/the-copenhagen-confusion-611f31cc27e1> >> >> >> https://twitter.com/philipcball/status/1268950876405850112 >> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fphilipcball%2Fstatus%2F1268950876405850112&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHyoDxbukkDIr-ioIp_UjGFzLHeIg> >> >> Jim Baggott Retweeted >> Philip Ball @philipcball >> · >> "The “collapse of the wavefunction” was never part of the Copenhagen >> interpretation because the wavefunction isn’t interpreted realistically." I >> have been trying to get this point across for ages; I really hope Jim has >> more success. >> >> Quote Tweet >> >> Jim Baggott @JimBaggott >> >> No, the Copenhagen interpretation does not entail the collapse of the >> wavefunction. > > Then, if I look at a spin in the 1/sqrt(2) (up + down), with a {up, down} > measuring device, I am myself in a superposition state, if the wave does not > collapse. > Non collapse entails many world, or better many dreams. In that case there is > no collapse, but also no waves needed, as it has to be explained by 2+2=4 & > Co. > > Bruno > > > > > The best comment by a physicists (Associate Professor, Monash University) in > the discussion thread: > > > The wavefunction is not a physical thing - so whether it collapses is > irrelevant.
Physical ”thing” is an oxymoron, when we take Mechanism seriously. But collapsing or not remains relevant, to make sense of the behaviour of single particle, or more generally to get some meaning of the relative probabilities, experimentally, or in arithmetic. Bruno > > > At least one physicist not brainwashed into the current religion. > > @hilipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/551ea822-560c-4113-bc6d-42b0f348fd2ao%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/551ea822-560c-4113-bc6d-42b0f348fd2ao%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/AA8E8BB1-3B0D-494A-ADCF-EF12BCFDC859%40ulb.ac.be.
