On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 1:37:31 AM UTC-5 Bruno Marchal wrote:

>
> > On 26 Jun 2020, at 00:32, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > There isn't much more that's been said about the (underdeterminative) 
> nature of theories beyond what Duhem, Quine said decades ago. 
>
> Quine is a materialist? He said this in the frame of Aristotle philosophy. 
> He missed the fact that incompleteness makes some “essence” back in 
> science, like the greeks saw much earlier. So, Quine explanation can’t work 
> when we assume Descartes, Darwin, etc. He needs a non mechanical mind, 
> which, BTW, re-introduced some “essence” too, in metaphysics (where the 
> essence are the most troubling, I would say). 
>
> Bruno 
>
>
> Duhem-Quine has nothing to do with what is fundamentally "underneath" 
> scientific theories -- it could be *matter, minds, numbers, angels, 
> devils, ... *. 

 

> It has to do with the mathematical-linguistic aspects of scientific 
> theories themselves and how they are merely *guides* to reality and not 
> its *scriptures*.



@philipthrift 

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