I like Shermer and his sense of humor in the way that liked George Carlin, with Carlin being the brighter of the two. Beyond this, well maybe mind and spirit are just old fashioned terms by the ancients (DOTA?) for quantum electron dynamics skipping the Planck length? If this is the view, then yeah, everything is material. For philosophy the 'dualism,' ain't Descartes, but close enough for government work, as we say, stateside. Again, we drift into Wittgenstein's semiotics!
-----Original Message----- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2020 3:41 pm Subject: Re: Hegel in a Wired Brain You haven't by chance attended this course? https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLRdTugBInz1_8dZtuR7G4jWUYj6yVWUsg&time_continue=1&v=CD8HeoZF9cM&feature=emb_logo Brent On 7/27/2020 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Jul 2020, at 19:32, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Sounds interesting from an interesting contemporary philosopher. I think (without reading it) that Hegel would be confused at the science we have since discovered, and who would blame him? 150 years later, I suspect Wittgenstein would've picked up on neurobiology-cognitive science-computing, like a shot! This is just my speculation, and thanks for the book notification. Hegel missed the Phenomenology of Matter. Phenomenology of Mind or Spirit is an oxymoron. Russell and Wittgenstein missed Gödel’s theorem. Lucas and Penrose missed the key fact that PA, PM, ZF, do *not* miss Gödel’s theorem. The neuro-study of brain will teach us a lot on the human and mammal intelligence, but not so much about consciousness, as it would be like understanding how deep blue win a chess game by looking at the theory of electronic transistor. Consciousness is a high level semantic fixed point. It is the (arithmetical) truth, when known immediately, which is indubitable and experienced (first person) yet non rationally definable, and non definable without invoking the notion truth or reality. All universal number have it, but it is very plausibly a highly “altered state of consciousness”. It is the initial state before the first differentiation/histories possibles. Bruno -----Original Message----- From: Philip Thrift <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 5:29 am Subject: Hegel in a Wired Brain Hegel's 250th birtthday is next month. New book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48925362-hegel-in-a-wired-brain @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d788fc95-8768-4e4a-ae2a-50f99c41a025o%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/864468630.5964261.1595698362805%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CB213CF2-E714-4FC4-88BC-BC53416918E8%40ulb.ac.be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/29cd05b3-ba5e-6436-ab12-b67954176d7a%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1636551177.6702060.1595885183875%40mail.yahoo.com.
