On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 6:56 PM Lawrence Crowell <
[email protected]> wrote:

>> Have you found an error in John Von Neumann's work that proves his probe
>> won't work?
>>
>
> > The main point I am making is that lots of future predictions do not
> happen.
>

Not happened YET, but there is plenty of time. Just 200 years ago nobody
knew what electricity was and a wood fired steam engine was high tech, and
10,000 years ago a sharp flint rock was high-tech, and it will be a billion
years or so before the sun gets too hot for life to exist on Earth. Liquid
nitrogen gives you time.


> > The big wheel in space, Luna city and piloted missions to Mars and
> Jupiter  have simply not happened.
>

True they have not happened, but not because they violate some law of
physics or even because current technology is not advanced enough to do so;
they have not been built because nobody could find any Scientific,
economic, or military reason to do so, and it's entirely possible nobody
ever will. However I'm quite confident nobody will ever run out of reasons
to stop pursuing immortality or in making sure your AI is smarter than the
other guy's AI.

> One thing that has happened is the idea science as the basis for
> explanation for the universe has in the minds of some people also come to
> replace religion.
>

Yes certainly, but you almost make that sound like a bad thing. Religion
sucks, Science doesn't because religion (and magic) doesn't work, but
Science does.

> In the case of N2 freezing this involves immortality, or at least
> unbounded lifespan that avoids mortality.
>

Yes.

John K Clark

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