[Philip Benjamin]
Perhaps in "Everything List "Hardball Tactics of Republicans to promote Civil 
Liberties after 1861" is also relevant. Then check the following link.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-democrats-can-learn-hardball-from-the-republicans-of-1861/
In  antebellum America the Democrats were the pro-slavery, pro-segregation, 
pro-discrimination, pro-KKK Party. Have they really changed? If so good for 
them. If not, who is now the pro-human-trafficking, pro-sanctuary-city, 
pro-illegal-immigration, pro-pornography, pro-baby-dismembering, 
pro-baby-part-selling, anti-family, anti-traditional-marriage, pro-pedophilia, 
pro- beastiality, pro-anarchy, pro-Epstein-isalnd-morality, pro-pagan, 
pro-progressism etc., etc.?
       Having laws by free citizens in a free society in congruence with 
Natural Laws or Common Sense is not dictatorship. It is civility, law & order. 
There are basic rule-of-law considerations from both a theoretical and 
historical perspective. Fourth Century Augustine (once a profligate pagan, 
https://www.midwestaugustinians.org/conversion-of-st-augustine) is the chief 
architect of Western Civilization in general. The "Two great Awakenings" (led 
by the intellectual giant Jonathan Edwards, the founder of Princeton 
University) of Puritan America in particular are both historical and historic 
facts. Science & technology are the products of a civilization where an 
awakened Augustinian consciousness (not reptilian, unregenerated consciousness) 
prevails.
Best regards
Philip Benjamin

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Lawrence Crowell
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 7:18 AM
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Trump's massive corruption is now the new normal

The socio-economic role of the Republicans and Democrats is changing. The 
Republicans started in the late 1850s as a progressive party and abolitionist. 
Lincoln in fighting the Civil War though enlisted industry to produce 
munitions, and this coupled the Republicans with the industrialists and 
bankers. The Democrats were conservatives and Confederates, but after the war 
they split into the segregationist, or Dixiecrats, in the south, but coupled 
with the labor movement that sought economic rights in the north. This split 
collapsed eventually as the Republican domination from 1860 to 1930 ended, the 
progressive Democrats won with FDR and the New Deal. Eventually the split was 
put to an end with the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights. Then Nixon in his 
"southern strategy" moved the GOP into the south. The Democrats transitions 
from being the party of the landed gentry of the south into the champion of the 
working man. The Republicans went from being a progressive party into the party 
for the millionaire class. However, this is changing.

If Donald Trump wins I suspect the future of the US is a neo-fascistic 
authoritarianism. The Republican Party will become the sole ruling party and 
the Democrats reduced to a token opposition that is eventually phase out of 
existence. It is also possible that even if Biden wins that the GOP will come 
back with an even more of a madman, maybe Cotton of Arkansas. That man is 
insane.

However, if I assume that does not happen the signs are evident that the 
Democratic Party is emerging as the party of the neo-elites. The advanced 
economic sectors, computers, AI, biotech and so forth are largely in favor of 
the Democrats. The older industries, think of coal and oil, are behind the GOP. 
The financial sector is more Democratic than it ever has been, though its old 
GOP habits are still here. The Republican Party is becoming a sort of economic 
progressive party, or populist party, that attracts the economically 
disenfranchised. Though this is largely with white people. As white people are 
about 2/3rds the US population they have about half in their favor, and this 
corresponds roughly with Trump's base. This means the GOP will become in time a 
hopeless minority party unless their populist message is extended to non-white 
people. They could start with Latinos and by ending this ridiculous wall 
building.

I will also say while the Democrats are becoming the party of those better 
educated or more inclined to an intellectual perspective, the Republicans are 
becoming the party of the uneducated and in some cases just downright dumb. 
Trump has facilitated this enormously. Take a look at this statement by Trump. 
Anyone at a rally enthusiastically supporting this and hundreds of other 
non-sequitur statements are either not really thinking, they think they are 
thinking, or they are simply too dumb to ever think at all.



The GOP also faces a big shift because of their victory with the Barrett 
confirmation. I suspect it is now a matter of time before Roe v Wade is 
history. Abortion will become highly illegal, and I would not be surprised to 
see draconian punishments such as death penalty for abortions, even against 
women who self-abort. The GOP will have used up that trump-card. That is a big 
problem, for that creates a huge political message vacuum for the GOP. Also. as 
dead women start piling up and the flip side of this problem rears its head the 
conservatives will be on the defensive on this.

The GOP will have to come up with some new thing or amplify the pro-gun message 
to the point private ownership of nuclear bombs is legal. Well, sort of kidding 
on the nukes, but we may see all sorts of gun craziness. They might also work 
on a new message against LBTQ or other groups. The GOP is quite often in favor 
of punitive or authoritarian actions. Be prepared, that could be worrisome.

I foresee though a shift where the Democratic Party is the party of new wealth, 
and the Republicans are a sort of progressive or populist party supporting the 
economically depressed and the least educated. The GOP may in time lose its 
connection to the financial elites. This could be the next flip around.

This all has a weak connection to Democracy. This country has always had a 
rather plutocratic system. Attempts to make the American Republic more 
democratic have been rather fleeting and halting. James Madison lamented as 
president how the banks, plantation owners and shipping companies had such 
influence. Lincoln made similar statements. It has always been this way. The 
biggest difference between Republicans and Democrats is the velocity with which 
their knees hit the floor when confronted by their campaign donors.

LC

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:10:29 AM UTC-5 PGC wrote:
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:31:16 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
I hit back. Hey, maybe that is paranoid! Golly!

It's also, among quite a list of other things, delusional as your posts frame 
yourself as some hero on a revenge trip, necessitating "hitting back". You type 
on a keyboard thinking you're in some UFC boxing ring reposting links nobody 
cares about and nobody asked for. Somebody posts about a black hole and you see 
Obama and black panthers and post like a zealot who has to rid the list from 
satan. That, and you're working for Xi by being a racist, supporting those 
responsible for killing US citizens via inaction and downplaying the pandemic, 
thereby weakening USA. PGC
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