One can call iit whataboutism, out of the leftist lexicon, or one can say, compare and contrast? Xi has become an active enemy for his own needs, not Joe or nancy or orange man. He is simply using a great external enemy to unite the people over an external threat, rather than to have the peasants start accusing the party of bad governance. Obama, Bush 43, Bubba Clinton also enabled the CP China economically and promoting the offshoring of US jobs that the corporate heads saw as a great cost savings. For your own reasons, judging by your posts, you are also content with the way things were. So, for what once a pro-middle class party, the democrats are now the party of the wealthy, and obviously income inequality doesn't really mean anything to the DNC. To relieve income inequality in the US, Americans need to be employed at middle class jobs, savvy? -----Original Message---- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2020 10:12 pm Subject: Re: Trump's massive corruption is now the new normal
Whataboutism. It'll concern me when you admit that you didn't know shit about who praised and who damned Xi. Brent On 10/27/2020 6:44 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: This doesn't concern you? Pelosi blocks the sanctioning of Confucius Institutes of the Chinese Communist Party in the US https://thebl.com/politics/pelosi-blocks-the-sanctioning-of-the-confucius-institutes-of-the-chinese-communist-party-in-the-us.html -----Original Message----- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2020 9:24 pm Subject: Re: Trump's massive corruption is now the new normal On 10/27/2020 5:55 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I could ignore the crowing about the wonderfulness of the alternative to Don, or I can hit back. I keep quiet unless somebody here yodels out some political diatribe, but when they do I write back. Consider this a character flaw, a disorder, no problem. I don't see the guy who took some action against Xi, while Joe and Chuck and Nancy were always laudatory for the dude. ============================================= Washington, D.C. 15 Oct 2019 – Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered remarks on the Floor of the House of Representatives in support of H.R. 4270, the PROTECT Hong Kong Act; H.R. 3289, the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019; and H.Res. 543, a resolution supporting the Hong Kong protestors. Below are the Speaker’s remarks: Speaker Pelosi: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the gentleman for yielding and I thank him for his support of democracy and democratic freedom in Hong Kong. I want to salute my colleague, Representative Smith from New Jersey, with whom I have worked for decades with on this subject, whether it's religious freedom, freedom of expression, and in China. And I thank Mr. McGovern for his important leadership as Chair of the China Commission and as Chair of the Lantos Human Rights Commission. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Sherman, for your leadership, and for yielding, in fact. So, right now we're on the, what, Protect Hong Kong Act as amended, by Mr. McGovern and I rise in support of that legislation. And indeed the bills that are on the Floor to support democratic freedom in Hong Kong. Mr. Speaker, for four months the young people of Hong Kong have sent a stirring message to the world that the dreams of freedom, justice and democracy can never be extinguished by injustice and intimidation. The extraordinary outpouring of courage from the people of Hong Kong stands in stark contrast to a cowardly government that refuses to respect the rule of law or live up to the ‘One Country, Two Systems’ framework, which was guaranteed more than two decades ago. In 1984, before the United Kingdom transferred Hong Kong to China, the Chinese government promised a high degree of autonomy for the territory in the Joint Declaration of the Question of Hong Kong, providing for an independent executive, legislature and judiciary — independent; ensuring the freedom of speech, press, assembly and religion; prohibiting the central government, the Chinese government in Beijing, from interfering in the affairs that Hong Kong administers on its own according to the Basic Law; and pledging a path to universal suffrage. In 1997 – that's when we were here doing this – when the handover occurred, America was hopeful that the people of Hong Kong would achieve this high degree of autonomy that they were promised. And, this was a promise that was participated in by the U.K. government. Today, we must sadly conclude that China has broken that promise. For years, the people of Hong Kong have faced a barrage of unjust and harsh restrictions on their freedoms. And those who have stood up for their rights have been met with a cruel crackdown. In Congress, Democrats and Republicans in the House and in the Senate stand united with the people of Hong Kong. If America does not speak out for human rights in China because of commercial interests, then we lose all moral authority to speak out for human rights any place in the world. Since Tiananmen Square 30 years ago, many of us, in a bipartisan way, have been fighting this fight and we have seen that commercial interests always wins. It's always about the money. I lost my innocence on human rights in America and China all those years ago, when I saw that while we talked a good talk, when it came right down to it – right, Mr. Smith? – it was always about the money. Again, to those who want to take the repressive government's side in this discussion, I say to you, what does it profit a person if he gains the whole world and suffers the loss of his soul? And we do not want to lose the soul of our country for commercial interests, whatever those commercial interests may be. It's interesting hear people saying, we have to know both sides of the story. Okay, you want to know both sides? One side is a very repressive regime that is crushing democratic freedoms in Hong Kong, at the same time that they have tried to destroy the culture, the language and religion in Tibet, at the same time as they incarcerate in education camps more than a million, could be three million, Uyghur Muslims in China, while they repress religious freedom there. The list goes on and on. And the other side, young people speaking out for freedom, democratic freedoms, in Hong Kong. They are so impressive. Mr. Smith and I have worked, as Mr. McGovern has, with like three generations. Starting after Tiananmen, tanks rolling over young people who spoke out for democratic freedoms in China. The next generation, a couple, fifteen years later. And now, this generation of young people. So impressive are they that even the more senior freedom fighters in Hong Kong are impressed by their courage and their stick-to-it-iveness. Today, the House is proud to pass a bicameral, bipartisan Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act to reaffirm America's commitment to democracy. And that doesn't mean a democracy lite – it means democratic freedoms, human rights and the rule of law in the face of Beijing's crackdown. And Beijing thinks that they can rule because of money. It always comes down to that. ===================================================== If Trump or anyone else plays nice-nice with Xi, this troubles me. NYT 22 Nov 2019: WASHINGTON — President Trump refused to commit Friday to signing legislation overwhelmingly passed by Congress to support pro-democracy activists in Hong Kong, saying that he supported the protesters but that President Xi Jinping of China was “a friend of mine.” The bill comes as Mr. Trump is trying to strike a trade deal with China, one of the central goals of his presidency. It puts him in the delicate position of trying to win China’s support for the pact while balancing growing calls from Congress to support the protesters who are taking on Beijing. “I stand with Hong Kong,” he said during a nearly hourlong interview on the morning program “Fox & Friends.” “I stand with freedom. I stand with all of the things we want to do. But we’re also in the process of making the largest trade deal in history.” Mr. Trump spoke warmly about Mr. Xi, calling him “an incredible guy” and “a friend of mine.” And he credited his trade negotiation with China as the reason Mr. Xi had not already extinguished the protests with a sweeping and violent crackdown that would have killed “thousands” of people. “If it weren’t for me, Hong Kong would have been obliterated in 14 minutes,” Mr. Trump said. But Mr. Trump’s apparent willingness to tie human rights issues to progress on the trade front drew rebukes from Republicans and Democrats, who said such positioning risked compromising the United States’ role as a global defender of democracy. “Make no mistake: President Trump’s words today do not reflect what the American people or the Congress think about President Xi’s oppressive policies toward the people of Hong Kong,” said Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader. “For a guy who promised to be tough on China, President Trump’s reliable deference to President Xi is all the more bewildering.” Senator Rick Scott, Republican of Florida, said that a veto from Mr. Trump “would be a mistake. Congress spoke loud and clear that we #StandWithHongKong.” He added, “It’s more important than a trade deal.” =================================================== I know potatoes grow underground, but even there enough news should penetrate for you to know who praises Xi and who criticizes him. 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