So Smitra, are you accusing westerners of looking fat, I mean from the side? I worked with a guy from Chenai, (remotely) who contracted it, was given unspecified medicines and came out (apparently) undamaged. I never was nosy enough to ask what he was put on by his doctor. I do know two people who died from it and 1 had an underlying condition and the other didn't and neither were fat. Just relating.
-----Original Message----- From: smitra <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2020 10:39 am Subject: Re: Ending The Pandemic? There is a strong link with lifestyle factors here. The Western lifestyle particularly the diet but also the lack of exercise makes us very vulnerable. But, of course, the human body is not going to fail all that easily, it's an extremely robust system. So, what happens is that as we age, almost all of us get atherosclerosis, but most of us will not get heart disease because of that. This has led to the flawed idea that atherosclerosis is a normal part of the aging process, an idea that has been debunked repeatedly in recent years. If you then have atherosclerosis, you are more at risk of getting other problems due to that and also due to the diet and exercise habits that led to that atherosclerosis. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)30752-3/fulltext https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/17/tsimane-of-the-bolivian-amazon-have-worlds-healthiest-hearts-says-study "A high carbohydrate diet of rice, plantain, manioc and corn, with a small amount of wild game and fish – plus around six hours’ exercise every day – has given the Tsimané people of the Bolivian Amazon the healthiest hearts in the world." This result confirms older results from the 1950s: https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/41/5/1221/712631 "In the African population of Uganda coronary heart disease is almost non-existent. This statement is confirmed by adequate necropsy evidence1. In the Asian community, on the other hand, coronary heart disease is a major problem. During the three years 1956–58 the Kampala health department registered 102 male and 45 female deaths over 30 years of age among Asians and of these 48 (44 male and 4 females) were certified as due to coronary heart disease (“myocardial infarction”, “coronary thrombosis”). Though the errors inherent in certification must be borne in mind, it is noteworthy that 43% of male deaths and 9% female deaths over 30 years of age were attributed to coronary heart disease." The diet of the Africans was quite similar to that of the Tsimané people: low fat no refined carbs. This means that the volume of food they eat is a lot more than what most Western people are used to eating, because the energy density of fat or refined carbs is huge compared to the energy density of unrefined carbs. That much larger volume of food contains lots of fiber, and also minerals vitamins and protein. Thing is that you need to get used to eating such a diet gradually over quite long period (months to years) before you can tolerate this sort of a diet. The microbiome needs time to grow and your intestines also needs to get used to the much larger volumes of food. A lot of the modern medical research on diet is junk science due to ignoring the obvious and whitewashing the Western diet. For example take this whole debate about fat. A lot of good research shows that fat isn't bad. There is nothing wrong with that conclusion. But the problems are caused by not eating the about 100 grams of fiber like the Ugandans used to do and the Tsimané are still doing today. The only way you are going to get 100 grams of fiber per day into your stomach is if you eat large volumes of unrefined foods, and that requires a low fat, low refined carb diet. Saibal On 29-10-2020 12:20, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > This is not going to end. The cat is out of the bag, and it is a lot > harder to get the cat back in. This is an endothelial disease that > impacts tissue inside blood vessels. This over the coming years will > result in a growth in congestive heart disease, renal and kidney > failure, strokes, and COPD related disease. We have only started on > this, and the long term impact of this will be of mammoth scale > compared to what we have experienced. > > LC > > On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:11:26 AM UTC-5 [email protected] > wrote: > >> The Vietnam war killed 58,220 Americans, as of today October 29, >> 2020 at 08:36 GMT COVID-19 has killed 233,137 americans, that's more >> than 4 times as many as Vietnam; during the last eight months the >> virus has killed more Americans than any eight month period in any >> of America's wars, even the Civil War. Yesterday there were 81,581 >> new cases of COVID-19, the largest one day number of infections >> ever. And yesterday the White House listed "Ending The COVID-19 >> Pandemic" as one of the major accomplishments of the Trump >> administration. >> >> Ending The COVID-19 Pandemic [1] >> >> John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f2dc64fe-f499-4b4b-aedd-b0ca4bfb03f7n%40googlegroups.com > [2]. > > > Links: > ------ > [1] https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-6bc5-d2df-adff-6fdfff5c0000 > [2] > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f2dc64fe-f499-4b4b-aedd-b0ca4bfb03f7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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