> On 13 Nov 2020, at 22:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 11/13/2020 1:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 13 Oct 2020, at 02:23, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The character of Joe Biden or Kamala is never in question? >> >> Not concerning their acceptance of the rule of law and democracy. The >> election was not between left and right, but between democracy and tyranny. >> >> Since Trump has been acquitted by the senate, he behaves already like a >> dictator. Why the republican accept this is a bit of a mystery, but I >> suspect bullying or blackmailing in the background (it looks more and more >> like what happened in Brussels …). >> >> I have to say that the victory of Biden is a big relief for me, and I really >> want to congratulate the Americans for those elections, very well done, with >> a big participation, despite covid-19. >> >> But, as expected (if only because Trump warned us in advance), to win the >> election will not make Trump and the Trumpists disappear…. (I have explained >> (on YouTube, right after Barr lied on the Mueller Report) that it should be >> much more easy to put Trump (and Barr, Pompeo, …) out of office before the >> election than after, especially if Trump lost them (!). > > We tried to put him out before the election. I don't know why think it would > have been easier.
If the (republican) senators just obeyed their oath of office, Trump would have been impeached after the hearing of the first-hand evidences. But after mocking the evidences provided so far as second-hand evidence (Hill, Veitman, …) they announced (Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, …) that they would not do that, and did not even tried to make a fake trial. I still don’t understand why the Dems, and all people in favour of some justice and accountability, did not react more strongly against the senators. > The Senate voted on straight party lines not to convict on his impeachment. With the noticeable exception: Romney. > Every Republican politician is afraid, not so much of Trump, as of Trump's > voters. A leader leads. A leader who is afraid of the voters is an opportunist crackpot without spine... > In every district a large majority of the Repbublican voters have supported > Trump in 2016 and 2108. So a Republican who doesn't at least pretend to > support Trump has to estimate that he can get a big fraction of Democrats in > his district to vote for him, because he's going to lose those Trump > supporters. They swear to defend the interest of the American people, not they own personal job… (ideally)... > >> >> The fact that about 72 millions of people voted for someone not showing his >> taxes is a sort of mystery to me. I suspect a lack of education … in logic. >> (Well, I have independent reason to suspect a quasi international problem of >> lack of education investment...). > > Yes, it is those disaffected voters who voted for Trump because he was a > disrupter, a rule breaker, and he blamed the same people they did for their > problems: immigrants, gays, coastal elites, the well educated, Muslims, NATO, > etc. Yes, around me I see that Trump attracted a lot of anarchist. They are democracy haters. > He validated their attitude that learning and expertise are worthless and > their ignorance is just a good as your knowledge. It is even better than any knowledge. Give them braid and games, and keep them ignorant …are the usual trick of the tyrans. > Like any autocrat, his support was fueled by fear and hatred of the other and > grievances he promised to redress. > >> >> I am probably more republican than democrat, but I prefer an honest opponent >> than a dishonest ally. >> >> BTW, I consider Trump to belong to the extreme-left (you need this to show >> such deference toward Putin, Xi, Kim-Young-Un. It is revealing to see the >> name of the foreigners who congratulated Biden (Europa, UK, Australia, >> Israel) and those who did not (the dictatorships). > > The left is for strong government regulation, or even ownership, of the means > of production, to the benefit of the worker. The right is for complete lack > of regulation so that the most powerful corporations can form monopolies and > government's role is only to defend their rights of ownership. I guess I am a centrist as I am for a good regulation by a small government, with anti-monopolies law. I take to the right the freedom of enterprise, and to the left the defence of dignity and some amount of social security (including health) to all workers or people. Usually the right implements better the idea of the left, and vice-versa. The regulator is the democracy itself... > So I'd say Trump is on the right. Like China, and even Putin sort of right…. > But he's not really ideological. No indeed, his “ideology” is in saving himself … I think that any politician asking loyalty for himself, should be impeached at once. You can’t be loyal to a person and at the same time loyal to the people and the constitution. > He used to register as a Democrat and was pro-choice on abortion. So his > only real interest is Donald Trump. Absolutely. Up to the point he really looks like a narcissist, which is just an solipsist. In the theology of the machine, it is (again) a confusion between the first person ([]p & p) and the third person ([]p). An adult is supposed to be able to separate p and []p. That is what babies do when developing their first theology (the belief that they have a Mother). Now, solipsism can be collective, and that gives “nationalism” (as opposed to patriotism). All minds become one, through some obsessive hate or fear of the other. It is a bit like an Einstein-Bose condensation... > >> >> Trump deserves jail, and he knows it well, that is why he does not concede, >> he has nothing to lose… Trump is the poorest man on the planet (as Ivanka >> Trump explained once…). He is also the most dishonest. >> >> Biden and Harris have made 0 faults in their campaign (except some terrible >> lapsus by Biden, lol). >> >> All the best, >> >> Bruno > > Is there not a populist, nativist faction rising in Belgium? > Not rising. It has always been there, like in the whole Europa. It disguises itself into left or right, but it is just the usual racism and antisemtism. It is common to the extreme (both left and right). For the left, it takes often the form of antisionism, which is the politically correct presentation of antisemtism. Antisemitism = no jews here Antisionism = no jews there Antisemitisme + antisionism = no jews anywhere = final solution = Nazism The European and American have made a big mistake after WW II, they have conceded to the Arab League and they have subtracted the nazi of the Middle-East from the Nuremberg trial, and what we call “islamism” is only nazism disguised into a religion. The Middle-East conflict is just the second war which is not yet finished there… The Muslim Brotherhood is Nazi since 1942, and that strikes the eyes if you read the chart of the Hamas. That one is a conservative extension of “Mein Kampf”. The extension concerns the women which are seen as factory of soldier and martyr only. We are a long way from the Golden Age of Islam, where theologians were scientist, and understood, from the study of greek neoplatonism, that a religion which is not laïc (separated from politics) is con-artistry only… As I said, we will leave obscurantism and transform the Renaissance when theology is back at the faculty of science. Then the pseudo-religious superstitions will be relegated to a paragraph in between the necrology and the horoscope in the Sunday magazine... 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