My own view is nuanced by the next month's determination of who really won? 
Like US senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, "we have a right to our own 
opinion, but not our own facts." In this situation where the elites, some of 
whom own Dominion, and apparently have fiddled with the software to ensure a 
Kamala-Joe win, (my assertion), then the US is in for some more trouble no 
matter who actually won? Like Joe Stalin said, "It doesn't matter who voted, 
what matters is who counts the votes?" So certain possibilities emerge, 
seemingly.
1. The Wuhan virus becomes highly treatable by the PFizer vaccine, and out of a 
sense of relief, people round the world are able to start and attend 
businesses, vacationing, and all the stuff we took for granted.
2. The vaccines provided don't really work that well (no matter who sits in the 
whitehouse) and we enter into a permanent recession. 
3. With that Crazy Orange Man gone, Xi decides to expand militarily into the 
Pacific because who's there to stop him?
4. The US, descends into a generalized civil conflict because Kamala-Joe and 
their voters, cannot abide the existence of the white racist nazi cracker Jesus 
constitution-racist denizens of the Flyover States. If one holds this as in any 
way accurate, and because even if Team, Kamala-Joe does mass arrests, 
confiscation of property, censorship, there will be a vigorous reaction. We'll 
do a Split. I would suggest that as former citizens of the once United States, 
we'd do this economically first, because who wants to trade with people who 
seek our deaths? I am willing to see this happen, simply to view if it is even 
workable, and it may not be? Consider it an experiment like Universal Income. 
5. I'd look to Joe-Mala to print up the money and (despite backing from Wall 
$treet, $ilicon Valley etc) drooling over China Trade resumed!!!) and start 
thinking, "yes the money is coming in from Xi and the US has agreed to withdraw 
from the Pacific,etc in exchange; but man, the Tax Rate has skyrocketed!!"! For 
the rich, the money flows in but then flows back out.
6. The Kam-Joe regime kicks Israel into thinking not only about deterrence, but 
having an actual system in place, like the Soviet Dead Hand launching thing. If 
I was them, I'd consider creating laser initiated  (sans, PU239 triggers) and 
produce thermonukes). One couldn't ensure survival, but one could ensure 
vengeance in the sense of what the Pentagon used to term "unacceptable damage." 
Caveat! I don't even know if this is even possible via physics?? I do know that 
Baby Kim was able to a traditional Soviet style nuclear bomb but no miracle 
lasers to achieve this-just the old stuff. A Iranian -Israel nuclear exchange 
seems plausible with the ascension of Joe-Kam. Could one threaten them with 
invasion, say Putin or Macron, to avert a nuclear holocaust!! (Alors!). 
Possibly, or one could wire fission devices together so that when a UN 
authorized NEST team shows up at the suspected facilities, things go poof in a 
very nasty way. 
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/31/does-israel-really-have-a-thermonuclear-weapon/Of
 course economic sanctions would be the rule of the day, but the good old days 
where this has a psychological impact may be gone? Or maybe not?
Dr. Marchal, does indeed know his fellow Europeans do, while out of their own 
narcissism, American leftists know only how they feel, but not what behavior 
and verbiage is actively occurring (my assertion!!). So yeah, the old 
reactionary right continues to goose step in outfits first designed by Hugo 
Boss 80 years ago, whilst the much more successful Left use their own form of 
ecumenical racism to gain power and employ enforcers. In Europe's case, the 
Islamists, here, BLMTifa. 
If I was a European, I would continue (as they must in secret?) considering 
continuity plans for survival beyond the time when the US, out of necessity or 
choice, disappears from the world stage. This may include placating Putin, or 
being nice-nice to Xi, or arming themselves to the teeth, lest anyone threaten 
them. Or, it could be that the citizens of the EU will also succumb to the 
mismanagement by the elites as the US has?  Oh well, this was all speculation 
and I am often very pleased to be wrong about things. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am
Subject: Re: Trumps September 27 COVID-19 superspreader event



On 13 Nov 2020, at 22:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:
 
 
 
 On 11/13/2020 1:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
  
 

  
 On 13 Oct 2020, at 02:23, [email protected] wrote: 
  The character of Joe Biden or Kamala is never in question?   
 
  Not concerning their acceptance of the rule of law and democracy. The 
election was not between left and right, but between democracy and tyranny. 
  Since Trump has been acquitted by the senate, he behaves already like a 
dictator. Why the republican accept this is a bit of a mystery, but I suspect 
bullying or blackmailing in the background (it looks more and more like what 
happened in Brussels …). 
  I have to say that the victory of Biden is a big relief for me, and I really 
want to congratulate the Americans for those elections, very well done, with a 
big participation, despite covid-19. 
  But, as expected (if only because Trump warned us in advance), to win the 
election will not make Trump and the Trumpists disappear…. (I have explained 
(on YouTube, right after Barr lied on the Mueller Report) that it should be 
much more easy to put Trump (and Barr, Pompeo, …) out of office before the 
election than after, especially if Trump lost them (!).  
 We tried to put him out before the election.  I don't know why think it would 
have been easier. 
If the (republican) senators just obeyed their oath of office, Trump would have 
been impeached after the hearing of the first-hand evidences. But after mocking 
the evidences provided so far as second-hand evidence (Hill, Veitman, …) they 
announced (Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, …) that they would not do that, and 
did not even tried to make a fake trial. I still don’t understand why the Dems, 
and all people in favour of some justice and accountability, did not react more 
strongly against the senators. 



 The Senate voted on straight party lines not to convict on his impeachment.


With the noticeable exception: Romney. 



  Every Republican politician is afraid, not so much of Trump, as of Trump's 
voters.

A leader leads. A leader who is afraid of the voters is an opportunist crackpot 
without spine...




  In every district a large majority of the Repbublican voters have supported 
Trump in 2016 and 2108.  So a Republican who doesn't at least pretend to 
support Trump has to estimate that he can get a big fraction of Democrats in 
his district to vote for him, because he's going to lose those Trump supporters.


They swear to defend the interest of the American people, not they own personal 
job… (ideally)...




 
 
  
  The fact that about 72 millions of people voted for someone not showing his 
taxes is a sort of mystery to me. I suspect a lack of education … in logic. 
(Well, I have independent reason to suspect a quasi international problem of 
lack of education investment...).  
 
 Yes, it is those disaffected voters who voted for Trump because he was a 
disrupter, a rule breaker, and he blamed the same people they did for their 
problems: immigrants, gays, coastal elites, the well educated, Muslims, NATO, 
etc. 

Yes, around me I see that Trump attracted a lot of anarchist. They are 
democracy haters.



 He validated their attitude that learning and expertise are worthless and 
their ignorance is just a good as your knowledge.   

It is even better than any knowledge. Give them braid and games, and keep them 
ignorant …are the usual trick of the tyrans.



Like any autocrat, his support was fueled by fear and hatred of the other and 
grievances he promised to redress.
 
 
  
  I am probably more republican than democrat, but I prefer an honest opponent 
than a dishonest ally.   BTW, I consider Trump to belong to the extreme-left 
(you need this to show such deference toward Putin, Xi, Kim-Young-Un. It is 
revealing to see the name of the foreigners who congratulated Biden (Europa, 
UK, Australia, Israel) and those who did not (the dictatorships).  
 
 The left is for strong government regulation, or even ownership, of the means 
of production, to the benefit of the worker.  The right is for complete lack of 
regulation so that the most powerful corporations can form monopolies and 
government's role is only to defend their rights of ownership. 

I guess I am a centrist as I am for a good regulation by a small government, 
with anti-monopolies law. I take to the right the freedom of enterprise, and to 
the left the defence of dignity and some amount of social security (including 
health) to all workers or people. Usually the right implements better the idea 
of the left, and vice-versa. The regulator is the democracy itself...



 So I'd say Trump is on the right. 

Like China, and even Putin sort of right….


 But he's not really ideological.

No indeed, his “ideology” is in saving himself … I think that any politician 
asking loyalty for himself, should be impeached at once. You can’t be loyal to 
a person and at the same time loyal to the people and the constitution. 



  He used to register as a Democrat and was pro-choice on abortion.  So his 
only real interest is Donald Trump.


Absolutely. Up to the point he really looks like a narcissist, which is just an 
solipsist. In the theology of the machine, it is (again) a confusion between 
the first person ([]p & p) and the third person ([]p). An adult is supposed to 
be able to separate p and []p. That is what babies do when developing their 
first theology (the belief that they have a Mother).Now, solipsism can be 
collective, and that gives “nationalism” (as opposed to patriotism). All minds 
become one, through some obsessive hate or fear of the other. It is a bit like 
an Einstein-Bose condensation...




 
 
  
  Trump deserves jail, and he knows it well, that is why he does not concede, 
he has nothing to lose… Trump is the poorest man on the planet (as Ivanka Trump 
explained once…). He is also the most dishonest. 
  Biden and Harris have made 0 faults in their campaign (except some terrible 
lapsus by Biden, lol). 
  All the best, 
  Bruno
   
 
 Is there not a populist, nativist faction rising in Belgium?
 


Not rising. It has always been there, like in the whole Europa. It disguises 
itself into left or right, but it is just the usual racism and antisemtism. It 
is common to the extreme (both left and right). For the left, it takes often 
the form of antisionism, which is the politically correct presentation of 
antisemtism.Antisemitism = no jews hereAntisionism = no jews thereAntisemitisme 
+ antisionism = no jews anywhere = final solution = Nazism
The European and American have made a big mistake after WW II, they have 
conceded to the Arab League and they have subtracted the nazi of the 
Middle-East from the Nuremberg trial, and what we call “islamism” is only 
nazism disguised into a religion. The Middle-East conflict is just the second 
war which is not yet finished there… The Muslim Brotherhood is Nazi since 1942, 
and that strikes the eyes if you read the chart of the Hamas. That one is a 
conservative extension of “Mein Kampf”. The extension concerns the women which 
are seen as factory of soldier and martyr only.
We are a long way from the Golden Age of Islam, where theologians were 
scientist, and understood, from the study of greek neoplatonism, that a 
religion which is not laïc (separated from politics) is con-artistry only…
As I said, we will leave obscurantism and transform the Renaissance when 
theology is back at the faculty of science. Then the pseudo-religious 
superstitions  will be relegated to a paragraph in between the necrology and 
the horoscope in the Sunday magazine...
Bruno




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