My own view is nuanced by the next month's determination of who really won? Like US senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, "we have a right to our own opinion, but not our own facts." In this situation where the elites, some of whom own Dominion, and apparently have fiddled with the software to ensure a Kamala-Joe win, (my assertion), then the US is in for some more trouble no matter who actually won? Like Joe Stalin said, "It doesn't matter who voted, what matters is who counts the votes?" So certain possibilities emerge, seemingly. 1. The Wuhan virus becomes highly treatable by the PFizer vaccine, and out of a sense of relief, people round the world are able to start and attend businesses, vacationing, and all the stuff we took for granted. 2. The vaccines provided don't really work that well (no matter who sits in the whitehouse) and we enter into a permanent recession. 3. With that Crazy Orange Man gone, Xi decides to expand militarily into the Pacific because who's there to stop him? 4. The US, descends into a generalized civil conflict because Kamala-Joe and their voters, cannot abide the existence of the white racist nazi cracker Jesus constitution-racist denizens of the Flyover States. If one holds this as in any way accurate, and because even if Team, Kamala-Joe does mass arrests, confiscation of property, censorship, there will be a vigorous reaction. We'll do a Split. I would suggest that as former citizens of the once United States, we'd do this economically first, because who wants to trade with people who seek our deaths? I am willing to see this happen, simply to view if it is even workable, and it may not be? Consider it an experiment like Universal Income. 5. I'd look to Joe-Mala to print up the money and (despite backing from Wall $treet, $ilicon Valley etc) drooling over China Trade resumed!!!) and start thinking, "yes the money is coming in from Xi and the US has agreed to withdraw from the Pacific,etc in exchange; but man, the Tax Rate has skyrocketed!!"! For the rich, the money flows in but then flows back out. 6. The Kam-Joe regime kicks Israel into thinking not only about deterrence, but having an actual system in place, like the Soviet Dead Hand launching thing. If I was them, I'd consider creating laser initiated (sans, PU239 triggers) and produce thermonukes). One couldn't ensure survival, but one could ensure vengeance in the sense of what the Pentagon used to term "unacceptable damage." Caveat! I don't even know if this is even possible via physics?? I do know that Baby Kim was able to a traditional Soviet style nuclear bomb but no miracle lasers to achieve this-just the old stuff. A Iranian -Israel nuclear exchange seems plausible with the ascension of Joe-Kam. Could one threaten them with invasion, say Putin or Macron, to avert a nuclear holocaust!! (Alors!). Possibly, or one could wire fission devices together so that when a UN authorized NEST team shows up at the suspected facilities, things go poof in a very nasty way. https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/31/does-israel-really-have-a-thermonuclear-weapon/Of course economic sanctions would be the rule of the day, but the good old days where this has a psychological impact may be gone? Or maybe not? Dr. Marchal, does indeed know his fellow Europeans do, while out of their own narcissism, American leftists know only how they feel, but not what behavior and verbiage is actively occurring (my assertion!!). So yeah, the old reactionary right continues to goose step in outfits first designed by Hugo Boss 80 years ago, whilst the much more successful Left use their own form of ecumenical racism to gain power and employ enforcers. In Europe's case, the Islamists, here, BLMTifa. If I was a European, I would continue (as they must in secret?) considering continuity plans for survival beyond the time when the US, out of necessity or choice, disappears from the world stage. This may include placating Putin, or being nice-nice to Xi, or arming themselves to the teeth, lest anyone threaten them. Or, it could be that the citizens of the EU will also succumb to the mismanagement by the elites as the US has? Oh well, this was all speculation and I am often very pleased to be wrong about things.
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am Subject: Re: Trumps September 27 COVID-19 superspreader event On 13 Nov 2020, at 22:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: On 11/13/2020 1:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Oct 2020, at 02:23, [email protected] wrote: The character of Joe Biden or Kamala is never in question? Not concerning their acceptance of the rule of law and democracy. The election was not between left and right, but between democracy and tyranny. Since Trump has been acquitted by the senate, he behaves already like a dictator. Why the republican accept this is a bit of a mystery, but I suspect bullying or blackmailing in the background (it looks more and more like what happened in Brussels …). I have to say that the victory of Biden is a big relief for me, and I really want to congratulate the Americans for those elections, very well done, with a big participation, despite covid-19. But, as expected (if only because Trump warned us in advance), to win the election will not make Trump and the Trumpists disappear…. (I have explained (on YouTube, right after Barr lied on the Mueller Report) that it should be much more easy to put Trump (and Barr, Pompeo, …) out of office before the election than after, especially if Trump lost them (!). We tried to put him out before the election. I don't know why think it would have been easier. If the (republican) senators just obeyed their oath of office, Trump would have been impeached after the hearing of the first-hand evidences. But after mocking the evidences provided so far as second-hand evidence (Hill, Veitman, …) they announced (Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, …) that they would not do that, and did not even tried to make a fake trial. I still don’t understand why the Dems, and all people in favour of some justice and accountability, did not react more strongly against the senators. The Senate voted on straight party lines not to convict on his impeachment. With the noticeable exception: Romney. Every Republican politician is afraid, not so much of Trump, as of Trump's voters. A leader leads. A leader who is afraid of the voters is an opportunist crackpot without spine... In every district a large majority of the Repbublican voters have supported Trump in 2016 and 2108. So a Republican who doesn't at least pretend to support Trump has to estimate that he can get a big fraction of Democrats in his district to vote for him, because he's going to lose those Trump supporters. They swear to defend the interest of the American people, not they own personal job… (ideally)... The fact that about 72 millions of people voted for someone not showing his taxes is a sort of mystery to me. I suspect a lack of education … in logic. (Well, I have independent reason to suspect a quasi international problem of lack of education investment...). Yes, it is those disaffected voters who voted for Trump because he was a disrupter, a rule breaker, and he blamed the same people they did for their problems: immigrants, gays, coastal elites, the well educated, Muslims, NATO, etc. Yes, around me I see that Trump attracted a lot of anarchist. They are democracy haters. He validated their attitude that learning and expertise are worthless and their ignorance is just a good as your knowledge. It is even better than any knowledge. Give them braid and games, and keep them ignorant …are the usual trick of the tyrans. Like any autocrat, his support was fueled by fear and hatred of the other and grievances he promised to redress. I am probably more republican than democrat, but I prefer an honest opponent than a dishonest ally. BTW, I consider Trump to belong to the extreme-left (you need this to show such deference toward Putin, Xi, Kim-Young-Un. It is revealing to see the name of the foreigners who congratulated Biden (Europa, UK, Australia, Israel) and those who did not (the dictatorships). The left is for strong government regulation, or even ownership, of the means of production, to the benefit of the worker. The right is for complete lack of regulation so that the most powerful corporations can form monopolies and government's role is only to defend their rights of ownership. I guess I am a centrist as I am for a good regulation by a small government, with anti-monopolies law. I take to the right the freedom of enterprise, and to the left the defence of dignity and some amount of social security (including health) to all workers or people. Usually the right implements better the idea of the left, and vice-versa. The regulator is the democracy itself... So I'd say Trump is on the right. Like China, and even Putin sort of right…. But he's not really ideological. No indeed, his “ideology” is in saving himself … I think that any politician asking loyalty for himself, should be impeached at once. You can’t be loyal to a person and at the same time loyal to the people and the constitution. He used to register as a Democrat and was pro-choice on abortion. So his only real interest is Donald Trump. Absolutely. Up to the point he really looks like a narcissist, which is just an solipsist. In the theology of the machine, it is (again) a confusion between the first person ([]p & p) and the third person ([]p). An adult is supposed to be able to separate p and []p. That is what babies do when developing their first theology (the belief that they have a Mother).Now, solipsism can be collective, and that gives “nationalism” (as opposed to patriotism). All minds become one, through some obsessive hate or fear of the other. It is a bit like an Einstein-Bose condensation... Trump deserves jail, and he knows it well, that is why he does not concede, he has nothing to lose… Trump is the poorest man on the planet (as Ivanka Trump explained once…). He is also the most dishonest. Biden and Harris have made 0 faults in their campaign (except some terrible lapsus by Biden, lol). All the best, Bruno Is there not a populist, nativist faction rising in Belgium? Not rising. It has always been there, like in the whole Europa. It disguises itself into left or right, but it is just the usual racism and antisemtism. It is common to the extreme (both left and right). For the left, it takes often the form of antisionism, which is the politically correct presentation of antisemtism.Antisemitism = no jews hereAntisionism = no jews thereAntisemitisme + antisionism = no jews anywhere = final solution = Nazism The European and American have made a big mistake after WW II, they have conceded to the Arab League and they have subtracted the nazi of the Middle-East from the Nuremberg trial, and what we call “islamism” is only nazism disguised into a religion. The Middle-East conflict is just the second war which is not yet finished there… The Muslim Brotherhood is Nazi since 1942, and that strikes the eyes if you read the chart of the Hamas. That one is a conservative extension of “Mein Kampf”. The extension concerns the women which are seen as factory of soldier and martyr only. We are a long way from the Golden Age of Islam, where theologians were scientist, and understood, from the study of greek neoplatonism, that a religion which is not laïc (separated from politics) is con-artistry only… As I said, we will leave obscurantism and transform the Renaissance when theology is back at the faculty of science. Then the pseudo-religious superstitions will be relegated to a paragraph in between the necrology and the horoscope in the Sunday magazine... Bruno Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/17f23244-a4b8-2d99-e638-b4a46913cb24%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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