On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:46 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> *> the negative gravitation potential energy is independent of rotation, *


That's true in Newtonian physics but not in general relativity, the
rotation of a mass will affect the gravitational field it produces, it's
called "frame dragging". For the Earth that affect is tiny (although it was
actually detected with the ultra sensitive "Gravity Probe B" satellite a
few years ago) but for something like a spinning Neutron Star or a Black
Hole frame dragging can be overwhelmingly powerful,

*> but it does nevertheless contribute to total kinetic energy. Since there
> could be different rates of rotation, and hence kinetic energies, for fixed
> values of mass, and therefore fixed rest energy, *


Angular momentum is conserved, if something is enticed to rotate clockwise
then something else is also being enticed to rotate counterclockwise. And
scientist have looked closely at the cosmic microwave background radiation
and although small regions appear to rotate there is no evidence whatsoever
that the entire universe rotates. Incidentally, if the entire universe did
rotate Kurt Godel proved in 1948 that General Relativity would allow
"closed timelight curves", AKA time machines capable of traveling into the
past; but although general relativity allows for a rotating universe it
doesn't demand it, and observation has shown that a rotating universe is
not the universe we live in. However Godel did prove he was capable of
working on things other than formal logic.

> *MOREOVER, if you want to take your inspiration from GR, you cannot
> dismiss the unstated postulate that universes evolves in time.*


The experimental evidence is overwhelming that the universe does evolve in
time, that's not a postulate that's a fact, or at least as close to being a
fact as science ever gets.

*> They cannot, under GR, spontaneously expand *


Not true, if empty space contains residual energy, and general relativity
allows this, then the universe must not only expand but accelerate, and
thus evolve.

John K Clark

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