On 2/3/2021 12:25 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 10:55:13 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

    On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        /> in GR universes evolve in time, but cannot instantaneously
        evolve faster than the SoL./


    In 1905 Einstein discovered Special Relativity and said nothing
    whatsoever could move faster than light, but by 1915 he had found
    General Relativity and had to amend that to some extent, he still
    insisted that matter or energy or information cannot move through
    space faster than light, but he placed no speed limit on how fast
    space itself can expand.

        /> In the MWI, worlds come into existence fully formed as it
        were, that is, replete with copies of observers. You want to
        have your cake and eat as well; that is, appealing to GR, but
        inconsistently instantaneously creating fully formed worlds,
        say like the one we live in. AG /


    MWI doesn't say if a new universe is created instantaneously


*IMO, it surely does! Deutsch makes a right turn in his car, and immediately another universe is created where a copy of Deutsch makes a left turn (and numerous other turns!). I see no way around this violation of GR. AG
*

You need to think of better examples.  Something like Deutsch making a decision is with probability near 1.0 a purely classical event. If it has some quantum component in its causation it was probably weeks earlier and in concert with thousands of classical effects.

Brent


    or if the new creation only comes into existence at the speed of
    light; it doesn't say because it does it need to, it works fine
    either way. MWI Is agnostic about that.

        /*> I*f your claim that the net energy of the universe is zero
        is associated with the universe as a whole, not for some part
        of it, then it must be speculative. No calculation can be done
        to establish it.  Correct?/


    Correct, that can only be established through observation and
    experimentation. However if General Relativity is correct and if
    empty space does contain residual vacuum energy (both those things
    can only be determined through observation and experimentationbut
    the evidence is piling up that both are correct) then the net
    amount of energy in the universe is indeed zero.

    John K Clark


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