On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:41 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> you've asserted that the total gravitational energy is identically zero,*


NO! Two particles have zero gravitational potential energy only if they are
infinitely far apart, at any other finite distance it's negative. What I've
asserted is that if General Relativity is correct then the negative
gravitational potential energy plus the positive mass/energy that comes
from rest mass, photons, neutrinos, kinetic motion, and all other
well-known sources of energy must sum to zero. But when we actually observe
the universe that doesn't seem to work because the negative gravitational
energy produced by all the stuff we can see only amounts to about 30% of
what would be needed to balance out the positive energy that comes from
matter even if you include Dark Matter. However we've also noticed Dark
Energy that causes the universe to accelerate. Accelerating the entire
universe to the degree we've seen would require a very large additional
negative potential energy reservoir of some sort, like the vacuum energy
that is part of space itself, and it turns out that the amount needed would
provide the missing 70% to make the total energy of the universe be exactly
zero.

John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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