On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

>> If you want to take the view that an entire new universe is created
>> instantaneously that's fine with MWI.
>
>

*> Maybe fine with the MWI, but definitely not with GR, which you take as
> your inspiration on this issue. How can you apply GR and then claim the
> instantaneous creation of other worlds by the MWI? AG*
>

Like every other scientific theory General Relativity is perfectly fine
with any assumption if its truth or falsity can never make any difference
to any observer anywhere at any time. So if you want to believe an entire
universe instantly pops into existence that's fine with General Relativity
and with the MWI; and if you want to believe it only comes into existence
at the speed of light that's fine with General Relativity and the MWI
and Darwins
theory and every other scientific theory you can think of. Whatever floats
your boat.

*> Basically, I don't understand your argument (which doesn't mean it's
> wrong). For starters, where does the mass comes from, which contributes to
> the rest energy? TIA, AG *


In relativity mass and energy are the same thing, remember E=MC^2, so the
kinetic energy needed to do work comes from the mass/energy released by
vacuum potential energy falling outward. In a similar way a hydroelectric
dam produces electrical energy that can do work from the potential energy
released by water falling inward.

*> Is this the GR expression for PE, which you earlier stated is different
> from Newtonian physics? *
>

No. The formula for gravitational potential energy is the same in both
Newtons and Einstein's theory.


> *> Now you want to assume rest mass exists in your sphere containing
> negative vacuum energy. AG*
>

If vacuum energy really does exist then It's an intrinsic property of space
itself and so it doesn't move, it always stays the same, so I guess you
could call that rest mass if you want but I don't know why you'd want to.
Light moves as fast as things can go and has zero rest mass, but even a
photon of light has a gravitational field, in fact if you concentrated
light enough into a small enough volume it would turn into a Black Hole.
Such a ball of light is called a "Kugelblitz".

Kugelblitz <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz_(astrophysics)>


> *> In an expanding sphere which is assumed to contain rest mass, why does
> M or M^2 increase as R increases? AG*
>

If empty space has residual vacuum energy (this is allowed by General
Relativity and through observation it now seems to actually exist) then a
sphere of radius 2R would contain 8 times the volume and thus 8 times the
amount of negative vacuum potential energy as a sphere of radius R.

  John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

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