On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 7:28 AM Lawrence Crowell < [email protected]> wrote:
>> Artificial Intelligence is hard but Artificial Consciousness Is easy. >> > > > This strikes me as totally wrong. > Why? Intelligence theories actually have to do something and they have consequences, if your AI company uses the right intelligence idea you could become a billionaire, but the wrong idea could cause bankruptcy; but consciousness theories don't have to actually do anything so you can't pick the wrong consciousness idea because one such theory works as well as another. A consciousness theoretician has the easiest job in the world and it has great job security because he will never be proven wrong. *> We may be near a time where the frontiers of physics will be pursued by > AI systems, and we human physicists will do little but sit with slack jaw, > maybe get high and wait for the might AI oracle to make a pronouncement. * > I agree. > Yet I question whether such a deep learning AI system has any cognitive > awareness of a physical world or anything else. > Why? If a machine is as intelligent as a human, or even more so, then I don't see why having a brain that is wet and squishy will be able to produce consciousness but a brain that is even more intelligent but is dry and hard would not be able to. I don't see how it would be possible to avoid the conclusion that consciousness is the inevitable byproduct of intelligence because otherwise Evolution could never have been able to produce consciousness, and yet you know from direct experience that it managed to do so at least once. Natural Selection can't select for something it can't see and it can't see consciousness but it can see intelligence, and you can't have intelligence without data processing, therefore it must be a brute fact that consciousness is just the way data feels when it is being processed. i John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0ajC12W-d7wj-Jf6i7GsrfZj4639c_JvC4d5540A-O9A%40mail.gmail.com.

