Combines panpsychism with integrated information theory and assumes
causal powers are singular. That's three strikes in the first five minutes.
Brent
On 4/27/2021 7:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
A bit long, but this interview of of the very lucid Hedda Mørch
(pronounced "Mark") is very good:(for consciousness "realists"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gilsMtCPHyw
via
https://twitter.com/onemorebrown/status/1386970910230523906
On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 8:38:32 AM UTC-5 Terren Suydam wrote:
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 7:22 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 1:08 AM Terren Suydam
<[email protected]> wrote:
/> consciousness is harder to work with than intelligence,
because it's harder to make progress./
It's not hard to make progress in consciousness research, it's
impossible.
So we should ignore experiments where you stimulate the brain and
the subject reports experiencing some kind of qualia, in a
repeatable way. Why doesn't that represent progress? Is it
because you don't trust people's reports?
/> Facts that might slay your theory are much harder to
come by./
Such facts are not hard to come by. they'reimpossible to come
by. So for a consciousness scientist being lazy works just as
well as being industrious, so consciousness research couldn't
be any easier, just face a wall, sit on your hands, and
contemplate your navel.
There are fruitful lines of research happening. Research on
patients undergoing meditation, and psychedelic experiences, while
in an FMRI has lead to some interesting facts. You seem to think
progress can only mean being able to prove conclusively how
consciousness works. Progress can mean deepening our understanding
of the relationship between the brain and the mind.
Terren
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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