On 6/3/2021 4:32 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:


On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-5 Brent wrote:


    On 5/30/2021 7:15 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
    This is manifested in denial arguments seen around the world. The
    second Amendment was drafted in order to allow militias to put
    down slave rebellions.


    I think that's nonsense.  The U.S. had just been formed by taking
    up arms, without an army, to revolt against the British Empire. 
    They didn't want the expense and difficulty of maintaining a
    standing army. So it is perfectly rational, slaves or not, that
    they would have written the 2nd Amendment as a personal freedom
    and as an alternative to a national army.  Without it there would
    still have been no obstacle to putting down slave rebellions.  It
    did nothing to enhance states and local governments power to do
    so.  And note that the two times that national militias were
    actually formed to put down rebellions, The Whisky Rebellion and
    Shays Rebellion, they had nothing to do with slavery.

    Brent


Letters by Patrick Henry  and Hamilton suggest otherwise. Besides the militia was only a nuisance to the British and the start of the revolution. It was the Continental Army Washington formed, a professional army, that won the war. The Shays Rebellion was put down by Washington by the army he formed.

But in the absence of a standing army, having armed citizens is what allowed Washington to just "form an army".

And you didn't respond at all to my point that there was no need for anything in the federal constitution to permit states to form militias, arm citizens, or take any action to put down slave rebellions.  Slave rebellions were illegal. A state had an obvious right to enforce laws.  So the 2nd Amendment could not have any effect of enhancing the ability to put down slave rebellions.  It's just revisionist history of gun control advocates who want to tie gun ownership to slavery.

Brent

LC
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