On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:56 PM <[email protected]> wrote: *> I suspect but have no means of proving that machine intelligence > managing aspects of society, might be a upwards?Another path would > seemingly be answering Engels and Marx's "means of production," paradigm, > but building advanced machinery to produce everything. We may eventually > get K. Eric Drexler's nanofabrication to achieve this, but the way forward > seems to simply be general advances with 3D printing. * >
I agree with all of that, and that's why my political views have changed somewhat. I always knew my rather strict libertarian philosophy would need to be modified when the singularity approached, and right wingers such as yourself would need to modify their dogma even more, but the singularity seemed such a distant thing I didn't need to worry about it. But now it doesn't seem quite so distant. A recent survey was conducted by the University of Oxford of 352 prominent AI researchers, this is the average prediction on when they think AI will outperform humans at various tasks: Translate languages better than humans = 2024 Write high school level essays better than human high schoolers = 2026 Drive trucks better than humans = 2027 Work in retail = 2031 Write books = 2049 Perform surgery = 2053 Be better than humans at everything = 2062 *> On the Trump attack assertion it seems unlikely, and it seems unlikely > because way get a puny 1000 fools showing up, * > By the way, several months before the 2016 presidential election I publicly predicted on another list that if Trump won in 2016 he would not leave the presidency peacefully in 2020, or ever, regardless of what the constitution says or how elections turn out. And my prediction was proven to be correct. I will now publicly make another prediction, if Trump decides to run and wins in 2024 he will be president for life, and when he dies Donald Trump Junior will become the new fascist dictator. > *Trump's comedic timing is one of the best I have ever seen,* > You and I have very different ideas about humor. > *if you've ever listened to his opening one-liners, which I doubt you > have.* > Actually I have listened to them but to me Trump's "jokes" are like listening to chalk screeching on a blackboard and I have to restrain myself from throwing something through my TV. It's interesting, although I've seen Trump struggle in an attempt to produce a facsimile of a human smile I have never once seen the man laugh. > *> Anarcho-Capitalism seems interesting, yet you'll need to cite some > examples for that being a success?* > Yes that is its weakness, nothing even close to it has ever even been tried so there is no experimental confirmation of the whole, only bits and pieces of it. But I really think it would probably work if we were starting from scratch, but we're not and that is a more serious weakness; so much existing social infrastructure would have to be scrapped to get to Anarcho-Capitalism it's probably impossible, or improbable, to get there before the AI singularity. And of course nobody knows what social structure will work after the singularity, there is no way to even know if there will still be humans around to form social structures. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > cin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1wDgsCHWM4v%2BgUcBkeF89mAb3%2BMKrKd6HpEDbGVkzffg%40mail.gmail.com.
