On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 6:57 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> > On 7/4/2021 4:30 AM, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > > On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 4:38:42 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote: > >> Advocates of MWI want to claim there are no projections (they aren't >> unitary) that instead the the world "splits" and each approximately >> diagonal value is realized in a subspace. But then one needs to explain >> what about those subspaces corresponds to the probabilities, or in other >> words what does "probability" mean when they all exist? >> > Well, probability has always been about random selection of something from > a collection of somethings. A classical example is random selection of a > ball from a collection of balls. In MWI there is random selection of a > world in which you find yourself. All the worlds exist just as all the > balls in the collection exist. > > > So you are this single magic soul that selects one world of many to really > be in? That seems contrary to the idea that your consciousness gets > entangled with every different result and so is equally in each world. > Perhaps all apparent selections are illusory: - The illusion of being in only one time (presentism) - The illusion of being in only one branch (collapse) - The illusion of being in only one universe (non-eternal inflation) - The illusion of there being only one set of physical laws (coincidence/design) - The illusion of being in only one nervous system (closed individualism). I suspect all are illusions: we exist in all times (eternalism), we exist in all branches (mw), we exist in many universes (eternal inflation), we exist under different physical laws (platonism), we exist in all nervous systems (universalism/open individualism). The big question then becomes one of measure: am I a typical observer? Why am I not a maximally simple but more numerous conscious state aware of just a single bit? Why am I not experiencing a conscious state of maximum entropy (a visual field of random snow), of which there are far more combinations? Perhaps the two ways of counting information cancel out in some kind of limit, like finding oneself in a country with a moderate population rather than a country with a very high population, because there's a lot more countries without a huge population. So perhaps we find ourselves, as humans, because we are somewhere between more numerous ants and the more possible states of Jupiter brains. Or perhaps we uploaded and created far more virtual lives of intelligent beings than there ever were ants on the original Earth. (Credit to Russell Standish's "Theory of Nothing" for the country analogy and ant question.) Jason Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/58f6b113-d5a9-1e20-fcf7-4896f9e6a5a1%40verizon.net > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/58f6b113-d5a9-1e20-fcf7-4896f9e6a5a1%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUiDMHyBcDZ4t84oU_19g2SuVLCL6D7w70AUfDHky%2B%3D9%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com.
