> On 5 Jul 2021, at 02:58, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 8:39 PM Tomas Pales <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 1:28:34 AM UTC+2 Jason wrote: > > Wei Dai, the founder of this list, proposed something quite similar, I think: > > http://www.weidai.com/qm-interpretation.txt > <http://www.weidai.com/qm-interpretation.txt> > > Thanks. From the last two sentences it does seem that the parallel worlds > don't arise by splitting at measurement from one world but already exist > before measurement. > > I find the differentiation of preexisting states a more palatable way to > think of splitting universes, which tends to raise questions that create > misunderstanding (like: where does the energy come from to make these other > worlds). The many minds interpretation seems to favor this view, but it left > open the question of where these infinite mind states came from. Bruno's > "many worlds of arithmetic" provides a plausible answer, in my opinion.
It is also the opinion of the sound universal+ machine, provable by her for sound machines, but of course, the machine itself cannot prove its own soundness, and this predicts also a sort of theological trap (or many traps: (8x7)/2, corresponding to a possible confusion of any two modes of self-reference among the 8 main modes. Many people confuse []p and ([]p & p), like Lucas and Penrose when they use Gödel against Mechanism, for typical exemples. Before Gödel, there was a general confusion between p and []p (the confusion between true and provable) (universal+ = Löbian = Turing-universal-and-knowing-it). Bruno > > Jason > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d76887a3-d6d8-49d8-801a-b3f7f3923a45n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d76887a3-d6d8-49d8-801a-b3f7f3923a45n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUjDXFmy8MROAFBms0e%3D12UnYE7zqrnWpmJWcoRxmqWqvA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUjDXFmy8MROAFBms0e%3D12UnYE7zqrnWpmJWcoRxmqWqvA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/A29E88C9-BBAD-4640-97C3-56B9D4B3CDA2%40ulb.ac.be.

