> On 5 Jul 2021, at 02:58, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 8:39 PM Tomas Pales <[email protected] 
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> On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 1:28:34 AM UTC+2 Jason wrote:
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> Wei Dai, the founder of this list, proposed something quite similar, I think:
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> http://www.weidai.com/qm-interpretation.txt 
> <http://www.weidai.com/qm-interpretation.txt>
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> Thanks. From the last two sentences it does seem that the parallel worlds 
> don't arise by splitting at measurement from one world but already exist 
> before measurement.
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> I find the differentiation of preexisting states a more palatable way to 
> think of splitting universes, which tends to raise questions that create 
> misunderstanding (like: where does the energy come from to make these other 
> worlds). The many minds interpretation seems to favor this view, but it left 
> open the question of where these infinite mind states came from. Bruno's 
> "many worlds of arithmetic" provides a plausible answer, in my opinion.

It is also the opinion of the sound universal+ machine, provable by her for 
sound machines, but of course, the machine itself cannot prove its own 
soundness, and this predicts also a sort of theological trap (or many traps: 
(8x7)/2, corresponding to a possible confusion of any two modes of 
self-reference among the 8 main modes.

Many people confuse []p and ([]p & p), like Lucas and Penrose when they use 
Gödel against Mechanism, for typical exemples.

Before Gödel, there was a general confusion between p and []p (the confusion 
between true and provable)

(universal+ = Löbian = Turing-universal-and-knowing-it).

Bruno



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