On 7/3/2021 2:57 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:11 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        >> And what the detector does is determined by quantum
        mechanics,not classical mechanics.

    />So what.  I don't know what your point is. /

My point is you can't describe what a wave is by pointing at a point. When an ocean wave hits a beach it efects more than just one grain of sand.

    />>> But all observations are classical/

    >> That is incorrect.No observation is classicalbecause all
    observations require instruments and all instruments work on
    quantum principles, even the human eye.

    > I/should  have written quasi-classical, but you know what I mean. /

No, I don't know what you mean.

    >/It's a quasi-classical /

"Quasi" means apparently but not really, so if it's semi classical it's only semi correct.

        >> All equations require interpretations, but the simpler and
        more straightforward the interpretation the better. The
        simplest explanation for why something stopped is that it
        didn't stop.

    /> ??/


*!!*

        > I believe you mentioned Gleason's Theorem, it says that if
        the quantum wave function is related to probability then the
        square of the absolute value is the only one that doesn't
produce mathematical contradictions.

    /That's why the explanatory gap is NOT what probability rule
    applies, but why is there a probability rule in the multiverse
    where all outcomes happen.  How does the amplitude in the
    superposition get stuck on some "split" of the universe thru
    nothing but the linear evolution of the Schroedinger equation?/


Well that's not very difficult to figure out!If the universe splits then everything that can happen does happen so the observer splits just like everything else, so he only sees one tiny branch of the multiverse.

    /> How does the amplitude in the superposition get stuck on some
    "split" of the universe/

/
/
I have no idea because that's not what happens.Nothing gets "stuck", no branch of the multiverse has a unique status.


Then do you suppose that the number of branches corresponds to the probability?

Brent

One Brent Meekersees the coin come up heads, and an identical Brent Meekersees the coin come uptails. Before the flip and before the split Brent Meekercan't be certain what he will see the coin do so he must resort to probability. After the flip I don't know if either Brent Meeker is "stuck" because I don't know what you mean.

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