On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 8:26 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So an intelligent and presumably conscious being once existed that knew >> which slot all the electrons went through, but those interference bands >> still showed up anyway. Don't you find that a little strange? If Many >> Worlds is wrong and that being didn't exist in another world, then where >> did it exist? >> > > *> The mistake that you (and Deutsch) are making, John, is to assume that > consciousness causes the collapse of the wave function in CI. This was > never a consensus view among supporters of Bohr. The idea was floated by > Wigner, but was eventually laughed out of court * > I think consciousness causing the collapse of the wave function is a dopey idea too, but some people believe it and I think it's good that there's a real experiment that can determine if it's true or not. And I'd still like to know if Many Worlds is wrong and there are no worlds but this one then where was that intelligent creature living that knew which slot each electron went through, electrons which later produced an interference pattern on that photographic plate. And you never answered my general question, what conclusion would you reach if you *DID SEE *interference bands on that photographic plate, and what conclusion would you reach if you *DID NOT SEE* interference bands on that photographic plate? If your opinion cannot be changed by the scientific method and thus neither experimental result would modify it in any way then obviously there must be something seriously wrong with your opinion. Wigner's idea was dopey but Bohr has no right to laugh at him because Bohr's idea for the cause of the collapse is just as dopey, in fact it was even worse. Wigner's idea was just wrong, but Bohr's idea wasn't even wrong, it was gibberish. As I said before Bohr was a great scientist but a lousy philosopher. Nobody can laugh at Many World's explanation for the cause of the collapse because it doesn't have one due to the fact that nothing collapses. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> buun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv147Q5b7BR2ry_1KtOTu2sMxp%3DCRSxa52s6aKjS5qvL9w%40mail.gmail.com.
