Hey, if cannabis helped me in understanding and remembering mathematical patterns and operators, I would have rocked the ganj, years ago. Your observation is that ganja doesn't impair mathematical capabilities. I wonder if one is a mathematical talent such as yourself, are instead impervious to THC's effects? On the other hand, if ganja was efficacious in promoting math skills should not have Bob Marley excelled at math references in his music? "Markov Chains,We Gonna Be all right! Triple Integrals,We be Jamm'in in the name of Plato! Irae Mon!
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Aug 12, 2021 7:47 am Subject: Re: Hitler against Godel's Theorem Nobody says that cannabis is not harmful, but it remains far less harmful than alcohol, especially during a pandemic. And cannabis is a *very* efficacious medication for a large spectrum if disease, which does not mean that it has not some secondary indesirable effects. Then the worst is prohibition, as it multiply a lot the danger of any medication having a potential danger. I am not convinced by the Lancet papers, as it contradicts all the examples I have seen as a teacher of mathematics, where I have thought myself that student smoking cannabis get bad results in mathematics until I change my own attitude toward them. The problem is that cannabis is used by some as a way to explain away their difficulties at school, but when we stop playing that game with them, I arrive at the opposite conclusion: it helps the student. I wrote a paper on this for a newspaper, a long time ago (1980s) which, of course, refuses to publish it as it could be seen as apology for drugs, which is illegal in my country. The very illegality of a substance damages all the information we can have on that substance. On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 8:42:54 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: Cannabis impares all cognitive functions. (And have a painkiller effect comparable to paracetamol. )https://www.newser.com/story/205310/studying-math-dont-smoke-marijuana.htmlYou can download the article as pdf from the newser article.There is no problems finding more examples. Interestingly, or maybe not, experienced users are less affected from an acute dose (spliff) than untrained users.So if you are using, you don't get stupider than you are already.https://www.nature.com/articles/1395716Appart from getting rather slow you also have a serious chance of triggering a psychosis, especially if you get the good strong stuff.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30048-3/fulltext If you doubt academic evidence, try writing an exam after a spliff and see for your self. Don't do it for any important exam though. A demanding cognitive computer game can serve the same function. Alcohol impares cognitive functions.Methylxantines, theobromine (chocolate) teofylline (tea) coffeine (coffee) all improve cognitive functions. Adrenaline improve, sugar improve.Low dose amfetamines are probably good but high dose not so much and low to high is razorthin when you need math. If you only have to run around with a machine gun, you have a much better dose interval. So amfetamines are popular in the army, not so much in the university world. Can have a place if you have ADHD tendency./Henrik Den ons 28 juli 2021 15:13Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> skrev: It is the first time I hear that cannabis impairs the mathematical abilities. You might give reference, and I hope it contains a comparison with chocolate, alcohol, etc. Without such comparison, anyone can find that anything impair mathematical (or whatever) studies, but usually such studies are not quite serious, or just pretext to not study. If you like mathematics, there is some chance that cannabis will help, and if you don't like mathematics, there is a lot of chance cannabis will *not* help.The question if consciousness requires material substrate is not a question of liking this or not. If Indexical Digital Mechanism is assumed, there is simply no choice: the material appearances must be explained without invoking any ontological commitment. We need to separate truth from what we want. It usually does not match easily. It is the separation of theology from science which makes people believe that the religious truth is a matter of choice. This is eventually used by people who want to freeze the field for their special interest. The god/non-god debate is a trick by materialist (believer in some fundamental substance) to make us forget that the original questions in theology was about the existence of a primary physical universe. To simplify, the question was should we invest in mathematics or in physics when we search the simplest ontology capable of explains all facts, or as much as possible facts? Bruno On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 10:21:41 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: My only concern about cannabis is the study that it did impair mathematical abilities. That is about it for me. In a few areas of the US, legal cannabis has been permitted. Which doesn't stop the thugsters from selling it illegally, under price. That is a social issue and not a medical one. On whether consciousness requires a material substrate, I have no preference, because honestly it is not up to me. It's the universe, I just work here. On the other hand I do hold with the idea of taking whatever advantage, even neuro-chemical, of the knowledge of anything the facts provides? The Beyond 1492 project likely needs funding, and I suspect that computer science, eventually, will provide for such a adaptation. My feeling is we don't need more religions to benefit us, but instead mental apps based on whatever facts we can uncover, be it flesh or spirit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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