On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 8:11 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just answer me 2 questions. >> >> 1) If Schrodinger's equation not only allows but insists that >> conservation of spin be violated as you claim >> > > *> That is not the claim I made.* > Like hell it wasn't! What I said was "The outcome of the experiment can only be up-down or down-up, up-up and down-down NEVER happens" you responded with "T*hat is what you are required to explain. The Schrodinger equation certainly allows, in fact, requires, all four branches to be present*". Now I know that anybody can have a brain fart, and if that's what it was I won't speak about it again, but don't tell me that wasn't the claim you made because that is bullshit. > *> I said "The Schrodinger equation certainly allows, in fact, requires, > all four branches to be present * > Yes, that's what you said. And if Schrodinger equation allowed ( or even demand according to you) that the conservation of spin be violated then no respectable physicist would touch Schrodinger's equation with a 10 foot pole. But of course it isn't true. >* I**f the measurements Alice and Bob make are independent." You > dishonestly deleted the last part of this statement. If the measurements > are independent,* > And that is more nonsense, if the particles are in entangled, as they must be if you wish to perform any Bell type experiment , then the particles can't be independent, because that's what entangled means > When the measurements are not independent, as when Alice and Bob measure > a pair of entangled spin zero particles, then only two branches are > present if the polarizers are parallel (but all four branches are present > if the polarizers are not parallel). > So now you're claiming if the polarizers are not parallel then the law of conservation of spin is violated, you're claiming that a zero spin particle could decay into 2 spin up particles, and that is pure unadulterated extra-virgin bullshit. > > The question is, "Why is that? What makes the difference? > The difference is up-down and down-up are consistent with Schrodinger's equation and with the law of conservation of spin, but up-up and down-down is not. *> The Shrodinger equation is studied because it is useful.* > And if that equation demanded the law of conservation of spin be violated it would be utterly useless and Mr. Schrodinger would be a laughingstock and not a Nobel prize winner. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> swq -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1QGpyE3uTReyqrtOsu27ZwCRTUvaB9BfLuuGms1QkBhA%40mail.gmail.com.
