Any system that works we should use, and system this is too slow to build or is 
unperfectable for the marketplace should remain as a lab curiosity. One thing 
that jacks up price is imminent danger. For smokers, air pollution was a big, 
unknown, threat to health, that never got factored in, because the was in 
flavor country. "I'd walk a mile for a Camel." Like a coal miner getting black 
lung, when, if you didn't like smoking a miner lived a lot longer. 
So, yeah to solar be it rooftop or Agrovolttics. Batteries are roaring along 
technically. This is for purely, practical, long term human survival, and not 
because Gaia approves! The MSR thing has always been tempting for me because 
1000's of years of solid electricity. Having said that, like fusion, its got to 
also creep out of the lab. I am very big with wind power at sea, which will 
start appearing along the US East Coast soon, as it has already proven a 
success north of Scotland. A possible dark horse live save would be the 
development of deep, hot rock, geothermal, now made accessible by technology.
lhttps://news.mit.edu/2022/quaise-energy-geothermal-0628
We'd be Quazy not to twy it! However, I must ask, does it cause earthquakes?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Jul 2, 2022 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: An example of environmentalist non-seriousness

 Yep, a lot of places they are putting solar panels up all over the parking 
lots.  This has the advantage of shading your car too.
 
 Brent
 
 On 7/2/2022 11:39 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
  
 
We can place solar collectors above already built land. A mall or Wal Mart or 
the rest has photosynthetic dead area anyway. 
  LC
 
   On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:46:49 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
  
 This quote is from today's issue of the New York Times, it's about a company 
called BlueWave that has found a way to use the same land for both farming and 
solar cell electrical production, and environmentalists oppose the idea of 
course: 
  "chapters of the Audubon nonprofit environmental organization have been vocal 
about the technology’s potential effect on wildlife. Michelle Manion, the vice 
president of policy and advocacy for Mass Audubon (which is not affiliated with 
the National Audubon Society), said that while her organization supported 
renewable energy, including solar within farming operations, “we want to 
maximize the placement of ground-mounted solar on some of our lands that are 
the least ecologically sensitive first.” And there are general concerns that 
even with dual-use solar panels, arable land may be lost, though BlueWave says 
that the land can be reverted to pure agriculture uses once the solar leases — 
typically 20 to 30 years — expire." 
   John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
  
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