We should follow this study as a baseline, and if we want to do empty parking lots, why not? Unless, that is, you considered this to be a faulty study? It comes down to the magic ultimate of using 50% or roof in the world to have a capability or producing 4.3 times the volts & BTU's we us with fossils and hydroelectric and nukes and nat gas every year. The downside would be bottlenecks in getting the minerals for PV panels, which I suspect will be tandem perovskite + polysilicon cells. This may be beaten along the way by germanium or gallium arsenide, if we can ever gather up a bunch of those elements and compounds? Keeping human options open for survivals sake, there is no telling if, the big oil companies can come up with CO2 extractors, rendering CO2 or methane as a non-threat to human living? I am not counting on it, but engineers, chemists, & physicists, seem to come up with surprising things!
-----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 2, 2022 2:39 pm Subject: Re: An example of environmentalist non-seriousness We can place solar collectors above already built land. A mall or Wal Mart or the rest has photosynthetic dead area anyway. LC On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:46:49 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: This quote is from today's issue of the New York Times, it's about a company called BlueWave that has found a way to use the same land for both farming and solar cell electrical production, and environmentalists oppose the idea of course: "chapters of the Audubon nonprofit environmental organization have been vocal about the technology’s potential effect on wildlife. Michelle Manion, the vice president of policy and advocacy for Mass Audubon (which is not affiliated with the National Audubon Society), said that while her organization supported renewable energy, including solar within farming operations, “we want to maximize the placement of ground-mounted solar on some of our lands that are the least ecologically sensitive first.” And there are general concerns that even with dual-use solar panels, arable land may be lost, though BlueWave says that the land can be reverted to pure agriculture uses once the solar leases — typically 20 to 30 years — expire." John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis 961 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/22a58b84-786e-4892-8862-93fbede85548n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2036375640.189770.1656816746682%40mail.yahoo.com.

