[Philip Benjamin]
       Very rarely I will again any response!!
       If there nothing never existed, never ever anything will exist anywhere. 
This is the ‘rational’ question of aseity and the inevitable necessity of  
infinite regress. What is more rational ? Aseity of ‘dead matter’ that create 
life? Or aseity of LIFE with creating both dead matter and life forms?
      Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles expounded the aseity of Adonai 
(plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (plural). A corollary from Genesis is the 
Sabbath—the seventh day and the seven days of the week which has no rhyme or 
reason in any astronomy or solar, lunar, planetary equations. The Western 
academia (WAMP-the-Ingrate) arbitrarily accepted the Scriptural
 Sabbath and Sabbatical. The compelling addition of the first day also was 
because of the 100% Jewish earliest Church (“multitudes”) on Acts 17: 17-24, 
that witnessed the earth rending Resurrection on the First Day.
     Empiricism counts!
Philip Benjamin

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Stathis Papaioannou
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 4:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Why Does the Universe Exist? Some Perspectives from Our Physics 
Project—Stephen Wolfram Writings

On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 at 21:53, John Clark 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:49 AM Stathis Papaioannou 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

> Identical physical states in a deterministic world would evolve identically, 
> as would any supervening mental states.

Yes.

 > However, a supervenient relationship is such that multiple different 
 > physical states can give rise to the same mental state.

True, and in that situation things would not be reversible; a cellular 
automation like Conway's LIFE is not reversible and for the same reason. 
Something can be 100% deterministic in the forward time dimension but not in 
the backward time dimension, but so far at least nobody has any experimental 
evidence that fundamental physics has that property, fundamental physics can't 
explain why you can't unscramble an egg, you need more than the laws of physics 
to explain that you need to invoke initial conditions. That situation could 
change if some of Stephen Wolfram's ideas turn out to be correct, but so far 
there is no evidence that they are.

 > The different physical states may then evolve differently giving different 
 > subsequent mental states. Subjectively, this would mean that your next 
 > mental state is undetermined.

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