"I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—"“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . .Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
   --- Percy Bysshe Shelley

On 8/25/2022 7:32 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:


      The Mighty Ancients!

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The Earth is dotted with ancient ruins.The Quran asks us to take heed from these ruins, as those civilisations were ‘greater in strength and in impression on the land’. This study explores what the Quran states about the ancients, as well as lists the discoveries of ancient ruins. It is interesting to note that, contrary to popular belief, both point towards mighty civilisations which flourished in the ancient past.


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http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-mighty-ancients.html <http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-mighty-ancients.html>

On 26-Aug-2022, at 2:42 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

 So Trump is actually more advanced than the rest of us. :-)

Languages also get more complex by borrowing words and concepts from other languages.

Brent

On 8/25/2022 2:02 PM, Dirk Van Niekerk wrote:


On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 12:05:52 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

    The weird thing about "aryan" history (originally a linguistic
    term) is that it is primarily a history of devolution. Classical
    Sanskrit is already considerably less grammatically complex than
    its predecessors. So the earliest human ancestors
    presumably spoke a language that was far more advanced and
    complex than any currently in active usage. Bizzare. Same thing
    with the Blavatskyites and their theories of primordial loss.

Interesting podcast by John McWhorter about this. The short version, there is no general rule that languages simplify over time: http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/lexicon_valley/2017/09/do_languages_get_simpler_over_time.html

The most trivial refutation is that if languages always simplified over time, the first humans 100,00 years ago would have been maximally complex, and by now our languages should all be ridiculously simply. Languages like Chinese and English have indeed simplified and one of the reasons is that these imperial languages have added large numbers of adult speakers who had to newly learn the language which tends to lead to simplification.  But he also give several counter examples.

Dirk.
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