As I have pointed out previously, the problem with probability as an ultimate description of the universe, is that it means the universe is *unintelligible*. I mean, it implies there is no *process* to understand why, when we measurement something, we get what we get. So I am in good company; God doesn't play dice with the universe. AG
On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 2:28:29 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > > > On 11/22/2022 3:07 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> some call Many Worlds bare bones, no nonsense quantum mechanics, it >>> has no silly bells and whistles cluttering things up. And that's the sort >>> of thing William of Ockham would approve of. >> >> >> * > It has an infinite number of other worlds, most differing from this >> world only in unobservable ways.* >> > > Yes. > > >> > >> * In comparison, taking the Born rule to mean what it says seems like >> modest addition to the theory. * >> > > From experimentation we know for a fact the Born Rule means what it says > and is correct, but if you are not satisfied with the "shut up and > calculate" philosophy and if there were NOT "*an infinite number of other > worlds most differing from this world only in unobservable ways*" then > you're out of luck; if that's true I don't think there would be any hope > of achieving an intuitive understanding of why the Born Rule is correct > > > I don't see how MWI adds to intuitive understanding of the Born rule. > It's not agreed among MWI advocates how different outcomes occur with > different weights (which is just another "probability" measure) or in > different numbers so there can be branch counting. > > > , and so you must instead just learn to be satisfied with shut up and > calculate. > > > I have no problem with calculating probabilities. Apparently though some > people experience existential angst when told the world isn't deterministic. > > Brent > > > After all, many philosophers, including some really great ones like Dirac, > are just not interested in philosophy. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > 6te > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0Xev57XFzof7pC2rRVCVFXbddH%2BzS8%3DoK%3DQ2GYxZWnQA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0Xev57XFzof7pC2rRVCVFXbddH%2BzS8%3DoK%3DQ2GYxZWnQA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c153e6ec-b1a6-479d-994b-df37a1c04fe1n%40googlegroups.com.

