"God not only plays dice, he sometimes throws them where they can't be
seen."
--- Stephen Hawking
On 11/22/2022 4:41 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
As I have pointed out previously, the problem with probability as an
ultimate description of the universe, is that it means the universe is
*unintelligible*. I mean, it implies there is no *process* to
understand why, when we measurement something, we get what we get. So
I am in good company; God doesn't play dice with the universe. AG
On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 2:28:29 PM UTC-7 [email protected]
wrote:
On 11/22/2022 3:07 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> some call Many Worlds bare bones, no nonsense quantum
mechanics, it has no silly bells and whistles cluttering
things up. And that's the sort of thing William of Ockham
would approve of.
/> It has an infinite number of other worlds, most differing
from this world only in unobservable ways./
Yes.
>/In comparison, taking the Born rule to mean what it says
seems like modest addition to the theory.
/
From experimentation we know for a fact the Born Rule means what
it says and is correct, but if you are not satisfied with the
"shut up and calculate" philosophy and if there were NOT "/an
infinite number of other worlds most differing from this world
only in unobservable ways/" then you're out of luck; if that's
true I don't think there would be any hope of achieving an
intuitive understanding of why the Born Rule is correct
I don't see how MWI adds to intuitive understanding of the Born
rule. It's not agreed among MWI advocates how different outcomes
occur with different weights (which is just another "probability"
measure) or in different numbers so there can be branch counting.
, and so you must instead just learn to be satisfied with shut up
and calculate.
I have no problem with calculating probabilities. Apparently
though some people experience existential angst when told the
world isn't deterministic.
Brent
After all, many philosophers, including some really great ones
like Dirac, are just not interested in philosophy.
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
6te
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