Am Mo, 13. Mär 2023, um 05:45, schrieb Brent Meeker: > An operational test for intelligence requires that ability to act in the > world to achieve goals. LLM's are intelligent in that they act to satisfy > prompts. If you went to the beach and you said to a crab, "Write in the sand > a short poem about waves." and the crab scratched out: > > Born > of wind and > earth's embrace > an ocean's memory of > storms beyond the horizon > its undulating information uselessly inscribed > in the meandering sand > finds voice at last > its fall a sigh a > single syllable > of surf > > You'd think the crab was pretty smart. An LLM could do that. The only > reason for us thinking it is not intelligent is that we know how the LLM does > it. When I first took a class in AI fifty years ago at UCLA. The Professor > explained that the definition of intelligence was "whatever computers can't > do yet."
My first AI class was 27 years ago. The professor also mentioned that, but he started with the question: "why do we study artificial intelligence and not artificial stupidity?", and his answer was: "because stupidity is not a scarce resource". Telmo > > Brent > > > > On 3/12/2023 9:29 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >> Does it really display intelligent behavior, and now you will need to define >> intelligent behavior with testable parameters. Do humans display intelligent >> behavior? How often, and how consistently? Many say crows do. >> >> This was part of my reason in hectoring JC on this. A neurobiologist tells, >> via research how parts of the human brain behave, and thus produce >> intelligence and (non-philosophically) consciousness. What part of the >> server farm enacts the illusion (I think) of intelligence? >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 9:29 pm >> Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky >> >> >> >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 12:18, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 8:57 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 04:12, Lawrence Crowell >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Remember no matter haw complex an algorithm it is ultimately a lot of >>>>> Boolean switching acting on what ever data is dumped into it. >>>> >>>> That means that if the entity displays intelligent behaviour, Boolean >>>> switching acting on whatever data is dumped into it can generate >>>> intelligent behaviour. >>>> >>> >>> Boolean logic gates (and, or, not) are universal. There's no finitely >>> describable behavior that can't be replicated by the repeated application >>> of boolean logic gates paired with a memory. >> >> Yes. But more generally, even from a position of ignorance, if you don’t >> believe that something made from electrical circuitry (or whatever) can >> display intelligent behaviour, and something made from electrical circuitry >> does in fact display intelligent behaviour, that means you were wrong. >>> >> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypXZLOOeKndehY1w3iseRPbrbF1HGG1dAk9rDh%3DvOtfVFA%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypXZLOOeKndehY1w3iseRPbrbF1HGG1dAk9rDh%3DvOtfVFA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/922538855.1640289.1678681763911%40mail.yahoo.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/922538855.1640289.1678681763911%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a38a6774-b5db-b940-d232-1d7f7aa5df3a%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a38a6774-b5db-b940-d232-1d7f7aa5df3a%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7e15f4ea-c3a4-4e33-8c89-54b0049d7a27%40app.fastmail.com.
